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August 28, 2012

Galloping Ghost: NTSB Nails It

By Paul Bertorelli

I took an hour and a half to attend Monday's NTSB hearing on the Reno Galloping Ghost accident. To say it was an eye opener is an understatement. It's not much of an exaggeration, in my estimation, to assert that before it even took off, Galloping Ghost's survival in the race was in question. The NTSB found that it was flying at the very edge of its structural and performance envelope, if not well beyond it.

How could this have happened? Perhaps the easiest way to answer that is to suggest that it occurred because of an uncertain confluence of an owner and team willing to press the limits, a racing association with weak technical oversight and a regulatory agency—the FAA—that simply wasn't in the loop. The NTSB found that the aircraft was significantly modified, to include the removal of the belly scoop, the addition of a new canopy, structural mods to the fuselage and tail and a boil-off unit that's popular among Reno races as a supplemental cooling system.

These are hardly uncommon mods for this class of airplane, but the FAA had no records on any of this except the boiler. The owners hadn't reported the rest. Given that Reno racers are experimental, I'm not sure they're required to, so that's not necessarily unusual. Yet had they done so or sought additional consultation, opined the board, more flight trials to prove the mods might have resulted. Would a structures guy have seen serious issues with the scoop removal just by inspecting it? Maybe. The NTSB said that much of the data it reviewed was unique to Galloping Ghost, even though other unlimited Reno racers are similarly modified. In other words, it wasn't necessarily a par-for-the-course airplane.

Galloping Ghost was clearly built to win. It was flying faster than it ever had by at least 35 knots and the engine was delivering more power than was ever asked of it, said the NTSB. It rounded its last turn at more than 400 knots, rolled sharply left, then pitched up violently into a 17-G uncommanded pull that the NTSB said no human could endure. Yet even before the moment the accident scenario began, there was some evidence that the airplane was coming apart. Like most aviation events, Reno is widely filmed and the NTSB had an unusual amount of good imagery to investigate this accident. It did a superb job of analyzing it.

In lap two of the accident race, the imagery showed deformation in the aircraft's skin, indicative of overloading, and a visible crack or gap opened in the canopy. Wouldn't the latter have been evident to the pilot? The conclusion seems to be that it should have been. Why it wasn't is a mystery. Again, the NTSB said these indications were unique to the Ghost, which I take to mean it's not normal to see that much deformation nor to see canopies parting.

On the accident lap, the final failure mechanism was loose or fatigued screws holding the left trim tab in place. (The Mustang has a pair of trim tabs, for redundancy, but the right one on Galloping Ghost was fixed in place.) The investigation revealed that self-locking nuts were re-used on the left tab and old paint on the fasteners suggested they were last installed 26 years ago. The screws were incapable of being properly torqued.

In the final turn, something excited flutter in the loose tab. Was it wake turbulence from the proceeding airplane or sympathetic vibration with a structure that might have already been buzzing? We may never know. But we know the result. Flutter is as relentless and unforgiving a phenomenon as anything in aviation and it can destroy robust structures in mere seconds. In Galloping Ghost, the fluttering tab failed the trim actuator rod, rendering the trim useless. It didn't help that the P-51's elevator bob weights and balance had been significantly modified. Jimmy Leeward was doomed the instant the tab buzzed. It didn't actually depart the elevator until well into the uncommanded pitch up.

In my view, as surely as the technical explanation for this accident was a structural failure, the reason for it was a cultural failure. In her opening remarks, NTSB Chairman Deborah Hersman showed an acute understanding of why Reno pilots are willing to assume risk, but she also observed that exposing spectators to risk is quite another thing and an out-of-control airplane is a risk to everyone.

As pilots, we tend to dismiss the concerns of non-aviators as the paranoia of people who live uninspired lives in a cocoon, unwilling or unable reach out for the thrill that animates the rest of us. But there's a degree of cynicism in that dismissiveness and it can get people killed. In my view, the Galloping Ghost accident doesn't appear to be the result of willful ignorance, rather, perhaps, a failure to fairly consider all the ramifications in maintaining an airplane to be flow to very edge of its performance envelope, if not beyond. It also seems reasonable to assume, based on the NTSB's findings, that it could have been avoided if the owners had merely examined the risks critically and conducted more flight testing. As the NTSB suggested, the Reno Air Racing Association needs better technical oversight of aircraft flying there and it has agreed to do that. RARA members certainly have the expertise.

A word here about the NTSB, which a friend of mine once described as "government done right." I'm not easily wowed, but watching this hearing, I couldn't help but be impressed with the thoroughness and speed of the NTSB's probe into this accident. Moreover, the board members questioning of the investigators showed deep technical grasp of the issues. They asked what I'd ask. And then some. Deborah Hersman's queries and closing remarks were respectful and set just the right tone; firm, no-nonsense, but not overbearing. Positive changes have already come in the wake of this accident. Let's hope they stick.

A video of the full hearing will be available on the NTSB Web site in a few days. It's worth the time to watch. I'll add a link when it's available.

In the meantime, you can download the NTSB's statement of probable cause here (PDF).


Comments

It's sober, thoughtful analyses like this one that make reading AvWeb such a pleasure. The Reno accident was a devastating blow to the general perception of this event. Beyond just handling it's analysis responsively, the NTSB did a real good thing by providing reasonable direction to avoid its recurrence. Thanks for the report, Paul.

posted by Anthony Nasr on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

Well, we could require full testing, analysis and certification of each mod, but that would not be racing. It would be parading. And what limits would there be for this oversight? Do the racers need to tear the engine apart to show the inspectors their latest internal engine changes? Any form of racing runs everything on the ragged edge and beyond if anything is to be learned. The thing about air racing is that a failure can be more difficult to deal with compared to failures on ground based racing vehicles. This, I think, is obvious and I seriously doubt that having a team of government inspectors would improve anything until all the racers were grounded waiting for their paperwork to clear; then safety would be enhanced.

posted by Stephen Phoenix on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

The "undocumented and untested major modifications to the airplane" were cited as a contributing factor.

Hazardous attitude: Anti-authority

"...visible crack or gap opened in the canopy. Wouldn’t the latter have been evident to the pilot? The conclusion seems to be that it should have been. Why it wasn’t is a mystery."

Really? I think the guy was trying to win. No mystery there. Hazardous attitudes: Macho, Invulnerability

3 out of 5 hazardous attitudes. Nah...nothing can go wrong there.

"They asked what I’d ask. And then some."

Yeah, they're full time accident investigation professionals.

posted by Amy Zucco on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

"And what limits would there be for this oversight?"

Presumably common sense enough to keep from putting in the air over spectators an airplane that's structurally unsound, as this one was.

I suppose you could have the spectators just sign the waiver, but killing them too often is self-defeating, don't you think? I'm the first one to flap my lips about over regulation, but this wasn't one of those cases.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

Just to add to the above, in the NTSB docket are copies of original documents describing the RARA inspection of the airplane. One note in it says "crew/owner cooperation was low."

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

It should not be much of a burden to require these modified aircraft to do a flutter test dive first (beyond race speed) before any public flight. Even model airplanes are required to do a simple test flight before entering a public model airplane contest.

posted by Bill Berson on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

In the auto racing world, the Wild West of experiment & modification has pretty well much been nixed in favor of hardware that is standardized by rule. Winning centers on painstaking preparation & tiny tweaks of the hardware, driver skill and a large helpings of luck.

Your personal answer to the question of whether unlimited racing should go the same way probably depends on whether or not you are happy with a rousing exhibition of safe & sane fireworks.

posted by John Wilson on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

(make that "...pretty much been..." and "..plus driver skill and a large helping of luck.")

posted by John Wilson on August 28, 2012[report abuse]

"And what limits would there be for this oversight"

Paul, I don't know how long you have been going to the races, but I have personally seen two racers have catastrophic failures in front of the grandstands. So what makes this last one such an airplane "that's structurally unsound, as this one was"? I doubt that the owners of those planes thought them to be unsound and I doubt that a team of inspectors would find otherwise with a cursory inspection. Anything whizzing around in a circle at 500 mph has the possibility of harming spectators for a large radius. To keep spectators "safe" would require something called a television.

posted by Stephen Phoenix on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

"So what makes this last one such an airplane "that's structurally unsound, as this one was"?

When the video of the hearing is posted, I suggest you carve out a couple of hours and watch it. I believe this question will be answered. The issue is balance. The issue is responsibility for the whole, not just yourself.

When you view the hearing, you'll hear the investigators repeatedly say there were data and observations unique to this aircraft, even though others had been modified similarly.

Should it, for example, be normal and acceptable for the fuselage to show deformation in flight severe enough to show up in photos? Should it be normal and acceptable for the airplane to be flown with a developing crack in the canopy? Is is good practice to re-use self-locking nuts on 26 year-old screws holding a part as critical and as flutter susceptible as a single trim tab on a heavily forward-biased elevator?

If you answer is yes, this stuff is ok, then you also agree that it's ok to put airplanes on the course with minimal safety margin.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

I agree with you that you can't eliminate all the risk for spectators and pilots. You can only require so much inspection and testing prior to a race. That's true in NASCAR, IRL and MotoGP, too.

But there is a common sense floor on these things below which no one should sink. Certain minimal conditions should be met and this airplane appears not to have met them. This was not a s*&^ happens bolt from the blue.

The problem with the "well, airplanes crash, get over it" response is that it's self defeating. If you let that attitude creep too far, you'll destroy the very sport you're arguing to preserve.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

Being classed as an experamental aircraft, just what documentation is required to be submitted to the FAA? By "undocumented" does that mean there was no logbook entry, drawings or record of the modifications at all?

posted by Richard Montague on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

It's been nearly 30 years since I was last at the Reno Air Races, but I can remember thinking then as we sat in the stands that we were right where a racer would go if it catastrophically failed as it came around the last pylon. There were several emergencies that year which caused participants to pull out and land at the emergency air strip (14-32 which cuts through the courses), although so far as I could tell, they were all engine failures. But except for the obvious risk to spectators, it appeared that safety concerns were strong. Has something happened to diminish those concerns in the last couple of decades?

I hope the RARA and all of the racers take to heart the NTSB's comments, because they have a strong duty to the spectators to make the Races as safe as possible, considering that risk cannot be realistically eliminated entirely. Like any spectator sport, the support of sponsors who provide the dollars depends on the support of the spectators. With or without the intervention of the FAA, the Races will be only a memory, if that support wanes.

posted by Cary Alburn on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

I flew with Jimmy jump seat in his stock P-51 (Cloud Dancer) and like it so much I went to Florida to actually fly a TF-51 with dual controls.

My instructor surprised my by being highly critical of the unlimited class feeling that rare, historic airplanes were being destroyed (not to mention their pilots). The more I think about it the more I am coming to agree with him. I now feel that the unlimited class should be eliminated and be replaced by stock WW-II aircraft. P-51s against P-51s, P-40s against P-40s, etc. The difference in speed would not be especially noticeable to the public but the closesness of performance would make the races more exciting.

I am not against out and out unlimited racing but this could be confined to straight speed runs a safe distance away from any spectators. Such planes could by one off racers saving historic planes for the future.

posted by ARTHUR THOMPSON on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

Richard, I'm unclear on whether the FAA has to be notified of mods on this class of experimental issuance or not. Typically, airframe mods don't require notification while engine mods do. That might explain why the boiler was listed, but nothing else.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

When I worked for American Airlines in Tulsa, all the NTSB reports were in the library at the Maintenance and Engineering building. I used to go read them sometimes on my lunch break.

They never failed to impress me.

posted by Chad R. Larson on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

Chad,I thought that the Reno report really did a good analysis of the chain of events in this case but so many GA NTSB reports are routine boiler plate that elucidate little. American is, of course, not GA and has great political importance as did the death toll at Reno.

posted by ARTHUR THOMPSON on August 29, 2012[report abuse]

From the report, "THE MODIFIED TURTLE DECK AND REMOVAL OF THE AIR SCOOP INCREASED THE RIDGITY OF THE FUSELAGE BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE WAS NOT AS STRONG OR AS STIFF AS THE ORIGINAL." Shouldn't that be "decreased" the ridgity? Sorry Paul. I'm not impressed.

posted by Patrick Flynn on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

F1 racing is more popular now (contrary to popular belief) than it was when drivers and spectators were being killed. I believe part of that solution is in the fact that the vehicles are now more reliable and as a consequence our general run about motor car is more reliable. There is a distinct perceptional link between racers and the vehicle in your driveway by the general public. While the racers were unreliable and dangerous so were the cars on the road. Now with better and safer racers the cars are better and safer and that perception is still there.

As for the flying racers we have the same issue, antiquated,unsafe, dangerous and unreliable aircraft so how does that reflect the public perception of GA. The aircraft we fly are antiquated, unsafe, dangerous and unreliable. We now expect people to join us madmen flying the contraptions that can fall out of the sky and kill people. No wonder there is a move to ban GA flying when at any moment you can have pieces falling out of the sky raining on your head.

I don't believe the owners of Reno Racers are doing GA any favours by building aircraft that demonstrate how flimsy they are. We need the general public to support us not to be against us.

My tuppence worth

posted by Bruce Savage on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

" Shouldn't that be "decreased" the ridgity? Sorry Paul. I'm not impressed."

Yes it should and it was. That's an error in the real-time transcription, which appears to use some sort of voice recognition to transcribe the hearing. There are a lot of such errors in that transcript.

Refer to the video when it comes out. Or the actual docket.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Bruce's F1 comment about promoting exciting, but safe, racing made me wonder if manufacturers would follow in the footsteps of Porsche, Honda, and Mazda:

The Cirrus Cup!

posted by neil cormia on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

This is what I posted on last September 18 on this website:

"It is certainly not a given that a departed trim tab was the cause, rather than the effect of some other failure (perhaps flutter)... "

A little later in the discussion I posted this:

"Now we can guess here and my guess would be that there was flutter involved and that led to some structural deformation where the tailplane incidence was altered which caused the wild pitch excursion..."

Sound about right...now that we have the facts from the NTSB...

At the time everyone was saying that the departed trim tab is what made the airplane lose control...we now know that is exactly backward...it was flutter that caused the structural damage...exactly as I postulated...the trim tab departing more than 4 seconds AFTER the loss of control was an effect not a cause...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Continued...

At the time I was challenged by a certain loudmouth who claimed the departed tab caused the flutter...and who then went on to launch personal attacks...questioning my credentials...calling me names...etc...

In several hundred hours logged in flight test...I can tell you that the procedure we use is to increase mach number by very small increment...because flutter can occur violently with just a small increase in speed...

At each speed we induce oscillations into the control surfaces by computer inputs into the flight control system...and measure the damping response to make sure it is adequate...

At each flight speed we will sweep through all the problem frequencies by inputting those frequencies with the "shaker..."...

It takes literally hundreds of shaker sweeps to clear the flight envelope and this actually takes up the majority of the flight test hours in the air...

Anytime there is high speed involved it makes a lot of sense to test the airplane for flutter BEFOREHAND...this is is very well known and established...

Just because it is a race plane does not mean you can take a pass on flight testing...if they had pushed the plane to those speeds incrementally as is standard practice they would have found the buzzing in time to make the needed improvements...

Btw this board does not allow web links so here is where you can find the aforementioned discussion:

/blogs/insider/AVwebInsider_Reno_205389-1.html

just put avweb(dot)com in front of that

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

I believe that the NTSB can be influenced by politics and I have examples such as the loss of investigators who have left the Board to work on the outside. It appears that the Board has done a very good job on the GG accident. One lesson for all of us is that as we become expirenced we become comfortable and confident. 'Comfortable and confident' isn't very far from 'complacent'. It is a fine line and we all need to guard against it and I miss the old hanger flying sessions that our busy lives seldom leave enough time for.

posted by John Snidow on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

My preference would be unlimited racing with specialized planes designed as such, similar to the various genres of car racing. However, auto racing enjoys the financial support of auto manufacturers and has a broader fan base that attracts the dollars of legions of sponsors, hence we will likely never see an unlimited class composed of Pond Racers or Tsunamis. Air racing is and will continue being the playground of wealthy individuals who are unlikely to have at their disposal the engineering resources requisite for such an on-edge sport the way auto racing does. It's just cheaper to buy P-51 parts and go race.

posted by Phillip Potter on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Very true, Phillip, but we can restrict to stock planes and power settings for warbird pylon racing and let pilot skill be dominant. The closer the finishes the more exciting in any case. However, sadly, Jimmy would have probably died in a straight run due to flutter but at least not the spectators too.

posted by ARTHUR THOMPSON on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Gordon Arnuat is right on. I have maintained from day one that aerodynamic flutter destroyed the plane, probably caused by a loose trim control connection. I had it happen to me while at 14,000ft over Martha's Vineyard when ice build up on a Beech Queen air stabilizer disturbed the air flow. I stopped the flutter by a smooth rapid pitch up and an immediate reduction in power reducing IAS from 140kts to 100kts I flew back to Hanscom Field at 110 kts Upon landing a loose clevis trim control fitting was found and repaired.

posted by Lester Zinser on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

I'm surprised by some of the comments here. It is as if some of the pilots here commented as throwaways an emotional post, showing ignorance of the report.

This report is a publicly released document of a very rare accident, one not usually available to the civilian pilot. This report was done with the help of many, in a diverse coming together of the air racing community and the NTSB. The people in air racing are from Lockheed Skunk Works, test pilots, the best of technical A&P's and AI's, etc from around the country, and the world.

When I was taught to fly the idea was to make the most of the information available. Make sure I read and understood everything I could. I still do this every day, every flight, and every recurrent training event. The report is very cogent, and the comments from some of our posters reveals a lack of understanding. That includes the AvWeb editor.

RTFR, gentlemen.

posted by chris mcmillin on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Due to the mods on this airplane the NTSB considered it structurally deficient, yet it withstood 17+ G's without coming apart & at that G load, why didn't it high-speed stall? Can anyone explain?

posted by Bob Merritt on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

I see very little about the course layout. OK so Jimmy did himself in but if the course was laid out properly only he would have been the victim. I was there with GS tickets a day before the accident. Instead of GS I perched myself up on the top bleacher at the rear. I remarked to a fellow sitting near me that the last turn was far too close to the spectators. What bothered me was that the Hawker Sea Fury never leveled off after the last pylon. That airplane came around the last pylon in a steep bank, nose up and stayed in an almost vertical bank, in a ballistic ark past the spectators. I would say that that is a good thing for a savy pilot to do because while in a ballistic trajectory in zero G condition he has no induced drag, only paracititc. That way he could accelerate during that part of the flight. So I would say that the 90% of the comments blaming Jimmy is not well thought out. The airplane killed Jimmy but the course layout killed the spectators.

posted by kent tarver on August 30, 2012[report abuse]

Bob...the shortened wing was able to take 17 G without coming off...but the tail was not structurally up to taking the speed involved without going into flutter...so it is a structural deficiency that would have shown up in flight test at that speed...

Why didn't it high-speed stall...?...it probably did at the top of the pull-up...the simple answer is the plane was going too fast to stall...although this is technically a poor explanation because stall is a function of AOA...not airspeed...

A better explanation is a bit more involved...G loading is a function of centrifugal force...which is mass times velocity squared, divided by turn radius...

we see by that equation that for a given mass of airplane...the Gs will increase if we either increase speed...decrease turn radius...or both simultaneously...

If we are going at a given speed (let's say maneuvering speed for example) and we continue to pull on the stick to decrease our turn radius we will eventually pull the airplane into a stall AOA...

But the airplane won't be damaged because the amount of Gs we can pull at that speed is within the structural limits...

If we go faster than that...we will pull more Gs (remember they increase quadratically with speed) before reaching our stall AOA...at those higher Gs the airplane will break...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Continued...

The best way to understand this is to look at a Vn diagram...which plots load factor against speed...try wikipedia...

Y

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Continued...sorry...browser mishap...

On the Vn diagram you can see the curved (parabolic) stall line...parabolic because load increases exponentially with speed (Centrifugal force = Mass x V^2 / radius)...

The equation for the stall line is:

load factor = 1/2 air density x V^2 x CLmax/wing loading...

That is exactly the same formula as centrifugal force...and the result is G force...

The mustang would have been built to take a maximum load of about 9 G...a CLmax of 1.5...a wing loading of about 25 lb/ft^2...and sea level air density of 0.00238 slugs/ft^3...so we can turn that equation around to solve for the maximum speed at which we can pull 9 g...

V at max load = sqrt(9G / (1/2 air density)/ (CLmax/wing loading)

The answer is ~355 ft/s which is about 240 mph...

a 17 g pullup would require a speed of ~335 mph...at CLmax...ie full aft stick...and since the airplane was going well over 400 mph it means that full CLmax was not even achieved...nor was full up elevator...

Still it shows what can happen at very high speed...you do not need anywhere near full control input to overstress the airplane...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Continued...

Just checked on some mustang stats and the wing loading would have been higher with the clipped wing...probably closer to 40 lb/ft^2...

It means the speed at 9g pullup would have been about 300 mph...(this is maneuvering speed and is seen on the Vn diagram as the intersection of the vertical line for Vm and the stall line...also called the corner velocity because at speeds higher than this full aft stick will result in structural damage...the corner being formed by the vertical speed line and the horizontal structural limit line)

With the higher wing loading 17 g would require a speed of `420 mph...

So it could well be that the elevator was close to full up in that zoom...

In any case the bottom line is that the airplane was able to hold together even at this extremely high g loading...but the pilot was not...and the plane crashed with an sleeping pilot...

The cause however is the flutter which made the airplane go out of control in the first place...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

And just to add here that an easy way to figure out an airplane's Vo...which is the maximum maneuvering speed...or corner velocity on the Vn diagram...is to multiply the stall speed by the square root of the maximum load factor...

So if we take the Mustang's stall speed of 100 mph and multiply by square root of its maximum g factor of 9 we get 300 mph...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Good engineering analysis, Gordon. But I would also be interested in the maximum VERIFIED dive speed of a stock P-51 without flutter. Surely the Air Corps must have such data. Would a good trim tab solved the problem?

posted by ARTHUR THOMPSON on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Paul, The combination of the NTSB investigation analysis and Posted reader comments are excellent in their assessment of the accident. My few additions are from an accident investigation perspective: the weakest link always breaks. but further evidence exists that the airframe was structurally loaded well beyond the standard 'Limit Load' condition that would have provided structural margin. In addition, the modified and displaced airframe hardware alters the know aerodynamics of any aircraft and puts the mod team at a known disadvantage related to expected performance, instabilities, and resulting load conditions during transient maneuvers. If telemetry was recording basic flight conditions, loading limitations could have been assessed. It seems that the business pressures of making the race and going faster, which was suggested by poor team/owner conditions; appears to be a more willful response than total ignorance. Flutter could have been creatd by the degrading stiffness condition of the loose screws, leading to an immediate failure of the link. It is all about the details and there appears to be too many missing in this case. Very sad for aviation.

posted by Philip Potts on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Thanks for that, Phil. I've been getting some interesting confidential e-mail in the background. The impression I get is that whatever you do with these mods, critical parts like trim tabs, ailerons and elevators have to be tacked down with the right fasteners, properly torqued.

No scrap bin make-dos or questionable fasteners. No tolerance for elongated holes or loose hinge pins. Even then, this airplane was substantially lightened and could have had serious underlying shortcomings. (I'm being generous; it probably did have.)

There have, of course, been other flutter-related accidents at Reno. Also, just other accidents in general. This one was egregious because of the loss of life and thus warrants examination beyond letting racers do what they wish, assuming all the risk.

posted by Paul Bertorelli on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Arthur...some pilots have claimed to have dived the mustang to 650 mph...but the pilot manual says 505 mph indicated at 5,000 ft...which is about 560 mph true...

Also important to note that just because an airplane flies up to 500 mph without flutter...that it is now safe...

You don't know until you actually induce flutter at that speed and then see if it dampens or diverges...

IN flight test we input those vibrations into the flight control computer...but in the days before digital flight systems you would use different types of shaker devices...like vanes mounted in the wingtips...or rotating bob weights...

Light planes and sailplanes still use those...you can even induce the needed vibrations by sharp control inputs...but you have some idea of their frequency and be able to measure the response...typically with piezoelectric sensors mounted in primary structure...

Point is you have to induce flutter at each speed because that is what can happen if you encounter turbulence...icing or what have you...anything that disrupts the flow can potentially set it off...so you have to thoroughly test for that...

posted by Gordon Arnaut on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

Galloping Ghost is not a new plane, by any means. It has been raced on and off for more than 50 years, under different guises. Yet, I have seen no reference to aging.

It has undoubtedly had many different crews through its life. I think I read the elevator trim mods were done more than 20 years ago. The last crew had a punch list that probably did not address many items carried over from the past.

Gordon put up some numbers, but, seeing as the plane had its armament (6 ea, 50 cal Brownings with ammo) removed from the wings, and armour plating and heavy radio gear removed from the cockpit, fuel and coolant re-location, ADI tank(s) added and all the other stuff, it is not possible to accurately determine the changes in load distribution.

Road hard, and put away wet many different times.

I'm surprised the subject of wrinkled skin was highlighted. Many planes do this within normal load limits, at least on wings where I can see it.

posted by Edd Weninger on August 31, 2012[report abuse]

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