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Joe Godfrey mixes his love of flying with a
love of music. He is an instrument-rated private pilot who flies a 1974 Bellanca
Viking based at Palomar airport just north of San Diego, Calif. He composes
music for commercials, films, broadcast and corporate media and has composed and
produced thousands of music tracks for America's largest advertisers. In
addition to writing for AVweb, Joe contributes to
The Aviation Consumer
and IFR Magazine.
He is a director and pilot for
Angel
Flight West, a non-profit organization that uses private airplanes to fly
indigent medical patients. He is married and lives in Leucadia, California.
So far, Joe is the only AVweb staff member who has logged time with Ella Fitzgerald and
conducted the London Symphony.
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Bill Dana was born November 3, 1930 in
Pasadena, Calif. He graduated the U. S. Military Academy at West Point and served four
years in the U. S. Air Force. He joined NASA on October 1, 1958, the day it was founded,
which makes him NASA's first official employee. As a test pilot he flew the triple-sonic
YF-12 (precursor to the SR-71) the wingless M2-F series (precursor to the Space Shuttle),
and the X-15. He flew the X-15 sixteen times, reaching a top speed of 3,897 mph and a peak
altitude of 310,000 feet. He flew the X-15's last flight above 300,000 feet and the last
flight of the program.
After the X-15 he returned to the M2-F3 program and won the Haley Space Award from the
Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics in 1976. Later, he was a project pilot on the F-15
HIDEC (Highly Integrated Digital Electronic Control) program and the F-18 High Angle of
Attack program. In 1997 he received NASA's Distingushed Service Medal. Bill was Chief
Engineer at NASA's Dryden Research Flight Research
Center from 1993 until his retirement in 1998.
How did you get interested in flying?
We lived in Bakersfield during WWII and the B-25s and the P-38s out of Burbank would
come up over Bakersfield on their test flights and I was inspired watching them. I
remember seeing a flying wing — it would have had to have been a B-35 because it was a
piston-powered flying wing — fly over Bakersfield one day, and then the first jet squadron
in the United States Air Force formed at Bakersfield airport in the fall of 1945. They
flew P-80s. I don't think it was any one thing, but I think it was a mixture of being
exposed to airplanes that much, plus the glory of aviation in WWII, which I wasn't old
enough to fight in but I was certainly old enough to read about.
Where did you learn how to fly?
I graduated from high school in 1948 and left immediately for West Point. At that time
there was no Air Force Academy, so the Air Force got its Academy graduates from West Point
and Annapolis and 25% of my class at West Point went into the Air Force. I started Air
Force pilot training at Marana, Arizona in August of 1952, and the first airplane I ever
flew was an AT-6. They were having propeller problems with the T-28s so they left me in
the T-6 through what ordinarily would have been the T-28 phase of flying, the first half
of advanced, and I flew the second half of advanced in the T-33s. I found the T-33 easier
to fly than the T-6, tricycle landing gear and very little torque. I finished the first
half of combat crew training in Del Rio in the T-33, and the second half at Luke AFB
training in the F-84G.
Did you ever fly in combat?
No, I got my wings three days or four days after the Armistice was signed with North
Korea, so by the time I got into advanced combat crew training the war was over. I spent
the entire year in 1954 in Korea flying recon. The only significant military activity
there was we were all packed and ready to go to Indochina during the Dien Bien Phu crisis
but the whistle never sounded.
How did you wind up becoming NASA's first employee?
I just finished my four-year commitment to the Air Force in 1956 and I knew I wanted to
get into some kind of flying job and test flying sounded like fun just because I had never
been on the leading edge. I was flying F84s when other guys were flying F-86s. I was
flying F-86s when other guys were flying F-100s, and I could never seem to quite get to
the top of the ladder, and I think that was probably the appeal of test flying to me. So I
went back and got a Masters degree in Aeronautical Engineering after I got out of the Air
Force and graduated in June of '58. Then I started looking seriously for a job and I
interviewed with Lockheed (Palmdale) and North American (Palmdale) and others, and in
September of '58 I set up an interview at Edwards with General Dynamics in the morning and
General Electric in the afternoon. I got out of my interview with General Dynamics right
at straight up 12:00 noon and it struck me that that wasn't a very good time to be going
and knocking on General Electric's door, so I drove around the base for awhile.
I happened to drive up to the NACA X1 building and I didn't even know NACA had a
facility at Edwards. The first person I met was the personnel officer who walked me around
the building and the hangar, and they had two or three F-104s and an F-107 and an F-105, an
F-102, and all this stuff I'd heard about but never flown. They offered me a job on the
spot as a stability and control engineer with the promise that I would be transferred into
to the pilots' office when they needed someone. I agreed to the position that day and they
said, 'What day do you want to start work?' and I had to get a civilian pilot's license.
All I had was a military flight certificate, so I had to get a pilot's license and then
move my apartment from Van Nuys up to Edwards, so I said, 'Well, how about the first of
October?' and they said, 'Fine,' and I came to work the first of October, and it was the
day that NASA was officially founded under the Space Act, so I am literally the first
employee of NASA.
I did interview at GE later that day but I told them I had already decided to come to
NASA. GE didn't have a hangar full of F-104s.
What were the early days of NASA like?
I spent a year in engineering and then September 1st of '59 I was transferred into the
pilot's office with Joe
Walker, who was chief pilot, and Jack McKay,
Neil Armstrong, and
Milt Thompson, and all
four of those guys ended up flying the X-15. I knew I was in the company of giants when I
got here. Joe was a veteran of WWII and a very capable leader. Jack was second in
seniority and was a veteran of the X-1 and Douglas Skyrocket programs. Milt was senior to
me and came up with the idea of using a parasail rather than a parachute to recover the
Gemini capsule. He would tow a paraglider demonstrator airplane behind a crop-duster. Milt
was never injured in the parasail but others were, so NASA abandoned the idea. Neil was
the middle-seniority pilot and he was a very bright engineer and I'm not surprised at all
that he was selected to command Apollo 11.
My first research program was Variable Stability F-100 with the flight control system
modified so you could program it to fly like anything you wanted it to. It would fly like
a transport or like a higher performance airplane, programmed by fiddling with the analog
flight control system. I'd probably spent a year as project pilot on that when I was given
the A5-A Vigilante as a project. I flew it up and down the airways supersonically, working
with FAA in a joint NASA-FAA research program to see if FAA was going to have any trouble
with the air traffic control of the supersonic transport, which we thought was going to be
flying nation-wide.
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Shortly after that the plywood lifting body came up
and although I was not a project pilot on the M2-F1, I was a tow pilot. I towed it with a
C-47. I remember standing out on the lake bed watching the first take-off with it on the
1,200-foot tow line behind the C-47, and to see that thing actually in the air
kind of validated the whole thing and proved that, yeah, this is a real airplane, not just
a kite. I had shown a lot of interest in the plywood M2-F1 and when the heavier weight
M2-F2 came up Milt Thompson was project pilot on it and Bruce Peterson was the
alternate project pilot. For some reason I was offered the chance to be an alternate
project pilot, too, and I remember reading droves of material on the M2 which had some
very odd-looking curves, a lot of side force with side slip and a lot of roll with side
slip. Sometime in the spring of '65 Milt Thompson decided that he couldn't fly both the
X-15 and the M2; he just didn't have enough hours in the day to do both, Joe Walker
offered me a slot on the X-15. It wasn't long before I realized what Milt meant about not
having enough hours in the day to do both, so I resigned the M2-F2 program and flew the
X-15 from the fall of '65 to the last flight in the fall of '68, although we didn't know
it was the last flight at the time.
Take us through an X-15 flight from suit-up to shutdown.
It always knew when I went to bed at night I knew I had a flight the next morning and
it never bothered my sleeping but when the alarm went off there wasn't any lying in bed
like most people do on most mornings; you knew you had a full day's work to do. I flew my
own weather flights. I wanted to check the condition of the lake beds, both the surface to
see there wasn't water on the dry lakes, and the X-15 took anywhere from three to five
lake beds to support a mission. You'd always prefer to land it at Edwards, and depending
on where it launched there were one to three intermediate lakes because you could get so
much speed going that you couldn't get back; you couldn't turn the airplane around and get
it back to the launch lake, but you didn't have enough energy to glide straight ahead to
Edwards either, so you had to have someplace to fall in the middle. And, of course, you
needed a place to go if the engine didn't light. I also wanted to know the wind conditions
at each lake because in a power-off landing a little windshear can make a big
difference.So there were three to five lakes to check every flight.
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I usually got up around 4:00 and got out to work maybe at 6 and was airborne at 7 and
back at 8, something like that. And then I'd get out of the weather-check airplane and
climb right into the suit van where I'd change from a flight suit to a pressure suit.
About two hours before launch I'd climb into the X-15, which was hanging under the wing
of a B-52 and it took about 20 minutes to methodically go through a checklist of all the
cockpit switches with an inspector looking on. With that done we'd shut the canopy and the
B-52 would start its eight engines and start pre-taxi checks and that took another 15
minutes or so. Then it took about 15 minutes more to taxi out to the departure end of the
runway.
We'd take off and always do one climbing circle over Edwards to about 35,000 feet and
that let us check the operation of the pressure suit. Then we'd head up to the launch
point where the B-52 would turn around and point the X-15 towards Edwards. Ordinarily
launch altitude was 45,000 feet.
With 20 minutes to launch we'd start up the auxiliary power units and check the
ballistic controls and we'd countdown to launch and the flight planners had a ground track
laid out. At about eight minutes to launch was where we'd turn back towards Edwards and rolled
out at 4 minutes to launch and then counted down and flew inbound for four minutes. At one
minute the control room called one minute to launch and the pilot would start his 8-day
clock on the dashboard of the X-15, which was the only clock I had. I didn't have a
wristwatch when I was in my pressure suit, and then there were checks down 30 seconds, 20
seconds, 10 seconds, and then finally to launch, and the X-15 pilot launched himself,
using a toggle switch.
I don't understand this phenomena but it felt like you were actually fired off the
pylon; you were actually only falling away at zero gravity, but it felt like you were
fired away, and it was quite a shock at launch. Then the engine revved and things really
happened fast after that. The X-15 weighed 33,000 pounds at launch and the engine put out
60,000 pounds of thrust, so we had almost 2 Gs when you lit the engine. As the fuel burned
down by burn-out you only had 15,000 pounds of gross weight and a 60,000 pound engine, so
except for drag, if you're on a high altitude mission where there wasn't much drag, you're
getting almost 4 Gs of pure acceleration. We had about 85 seconds of fuel and in those 85
seconds we went from Mach .8 to Mach 5.5 or 6.0 on some flights. That's a pretty wild
ride. Milt Thompson once said — and this is the best line that came out of the X-15
program — the X-15 was the only airplane he ever flew where he was glad when the engine
quit!
You'd be pinned back in the seat there wondering how long you were going to be able to
survive this and then the engine would burn out and you'd feel like 'ahh,' you were back
at zero G. On an altitude mission as you climbed out, the air went away and pretty soon
you were really at zero gravity. The coast home was pretty routine, whether it was a
heating mission or an altitude mission. I had always thought that the power-off landing
would be the hard part of the flight. I had never done power-off landings in anything but
a sailplane, but we had practiced landings so much in and F-104 that landing the X-15 was
fairly easy. We flew the traffic pattern with the landing gear up, then after we'd reduced
the rate of descent we'd extend the gear. It was a drag reduction technique so our
approach wouldn't be any steeper than it had to be.
Our glide angle at 300 knots was about 15 degrees, so we kept the gear retracted until
we were almost level, then landed almost immediately. Touchdown was about 170-175 knots,
and the slide-out on the skids on the dry lake bed was 8,000 to 10,000 feet. It was
always right then, after completing a successful mission, that I wanted to go right back
up and fly it again.
Did you ever have an emergency?
I had one engine malfunction so I shut the engine down and landed at the launch lake. I
didn't consider that an emergency because we landed with power-off anyway and whether you
landed at Edwards or at Baker didn't matter much.
We had some serious incidents in the program. The X-15 we lost had some electrical
problems which deprived the pilot of some instruments and he may have misinterpreted other
instruments and he re-entered the atmosphere sideways and went into a spin and was killed.
That was Mike Adams and that was our most serious accident. I was flying intermediate
lakebed chase and I was the second airplane to the scene but the X-15 had broken up in
flight so there wasn't much left to see.
The second most serious accident was when the landing gear collapsed on touchdown at
Tonopah, Nevada. The airplane rolled over several times and broke the tails and the wings
off, and that airplane was rebuilt into the one that was going to Mach 7, and did go to
Mach 6.7. Jack McKay was injured in that accident but he recovered and got back into the
program.
The most interesting flight of the whole program was probably Pete Knight's flight in
Ship 1 in the summer of 1967. He launched at Smith's Ranch about 100 miles north of
Tonopah, lit the engine and got to about Mach 4 at 100,000 feet on the boost. Then he had
a complete electrical failure which not only took all his electric instruments but also
shut the engine down. That left him with one steam-driven hydraulic pump. He climbed to
180,000 feet, then when he re-entered the atmosphere enough to turn, did a 180-degree turn
back to Mud Lake at Tonopah, without ever having an electron flowing in the airplane. Pete
earned the Distinguished Flying Cross for that flight.
What does the world look like from 300,000 feet?
It's a beautiful view. You're in dark sky. The atmosphere appears as a bright blue
ring, just like the you see in the movies. It's peaceful. It's quiet. There's no gravity
so your heart isn't working as hard to move the blood, so it's kind of relaxing.
What did you do when the X-15 program was over?
I flew the 199th flight of the program on the 24th of October of 1968. We knew the
program was ending in December of '68 and we were flying about once a month, so I thought
Pete Knight would probably fly in November and maybe I'd get another flight in December. I
had an absolutely routine flight to 250,000 feet and came back and landed. Between
research problems and weather we never got the 200th flight off.
I went back to the manned lifting body program. The first one I flew after the X-15 was
the HL-10, designed by NASA Langley. I flew that in 1969, then in 1970 flew the first
flight of the M2-F3, which was one of the Northrop designs. I flew that for three years, and
later got a few flights in the Air Force's lifting body, the X-24.
How had the lifting body program changed in the three years you were flying the
X-15?
The M2-F2 had come to grief. Someone had landed gear-up and the airplane rolled over
several times. That footage was used in the intro to the Six Million Dollar Man.
That airplane was rebuilt into the M2-F3 which I was the first to fly, about three years
later. It flew 27 times. The zealots for the lifting body design felt that the
Space Shuttle should have been a lifting body. It didn't work out that way because there
was a requirement for a long, narrow payload bay and that worked better with a traditional
winged fuselage.
Those that were advocates of the lifting body thought that maybe the idea had come and
gone and it has been very gratifying to see the success of the Lockheed X-33 single-stage-to-orbit rocket which should be
flying next year. And NASA Houston is building the
X-38 lifting body
similar to the Air Force's X-24A, which is a prototype for a Space Station recovery
vehicle. Scaled Composites is working on that so those
of us in the original group have seen the program evolve from plywood to composites.
How much flying have you done outside the government?
I've done some soaring and some light-plane flying and that's the sum total of it. My
wife learned to fly in 1968 and we flew a Cessna 150 for a few years. I live in Tehachapi,
just west of Edwards, at the southern end of the Sierras. We have good mechanical lifting
on windy days so I've done some soaring there.
What's going on at Edwards these days?
The X-33 is not being built at Edwards but it'll be launched there and fly up to the
Dugway Proving grounds. The first flight will be to Mach 9. The X-43 is an unmanned
vehicle with a hypersonic air-breathing engine. An L-1011 mothership will carry a Pegasus
rocket that will fire the X-43. It will fly two different missions; one to Mach 7 and one
to Mach 10. NASA is not involved in the F-22 but it's flying regularly at Edwards now.
It's exciting to see how digital computers are driving airplane and spacecraft design.
We developed computers in great measure to complete the Apollo missions, and the
capabilities are much greater than we could have imagined back then. We're seeing
airplanes that are not inherently stable, but the computer allows us to achieve that
stability. We're flying pilotless airplanes that can use GPS and fly-by-wire to find the
runway. I believe that these technological breakthroughs mean that aeronautics will
advance as much in the next century as it has in the past century.