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December 1999

David Bradshaw

31 Dec 1999

AVweb's Anti-Airline Bias

I am a loyal subscriber to AVweb and AVflash, and find them informative and entertaining. I must however take exception with your apparent anti-airline bias. It seems you never miss an opportunity to bash an airline or people who work for the airlines.

The story in the most recent AVflash is a good example. You bash Northwest Airlines about an obscure and rare incident of passenger problems during a snowstorm.

I am a veteran airline pilot who also commutes to work. It is my experience that most (I'd say 95%) of both the flights I work, and those I ride on to get to work operate normally. In fact in the 15 years that I have commuted to work, I have only not gotten there once due to problems, and that was due to weather.

I know that there are service problems with the airlines, but we still have a extremely reliable airline system in the USA, one that you should be proud of. All I ask is if you report problems, you should also acknowledge the very reliable service we give.

David Bradshaw
USAirways

AVweb responds...

David, we readily admit to a bias -- one that is pro-aviation. Everyone on our editorial staff has an active background in aviation and fully half currently are aircraft owners, with another aircraft under construction. We know the enjoyment of aviation and the satisfaction that being a pilot and using an airplane for personal transportation can bring. Congratulations to you as someone who has combined what I would hope are those same emotions with a successful career.

We also know that being a passenger aboard an airliner today has little in common with the different forms of what we have come to know as "aviation." While we watch airline service decline -- whether measured by increasingly crowded planes, reduced seat pitch, miserable meals, lengthy delays at the baggage carousel, or misinformation spread by gate agents on the cause and duration of delays -- we sometimes can't help ourselves as we gleefully point out the obvious alternative: general aviation.

Nevertheless, the recent delays experienced by Northwest Airlines and their continuing inability to keep their paying customers informed about them are newsworthy. That NWA seems to be the genesis of many recent horror stories -- and so-called "passenger bill of rights" proposals -- is also newsworthy and deserving of ridicule: How much longer will it take for NWA to get its act together on passenger service?

A bias? We're guilty. We're also guilty of reporting when an airline shoots itself in the foot and makes the rest of the industry look bad.

--Joseph E. (Jeb) Burnside, Executive Editor

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Dale Wright

30 Dec 1999

Detours Around Charlotte Class B

In your news story headlined "Here's Your Chance To Downsize The FAA," you included the comment:

"Maybe we at AVweb can finally get past the CLT Class B airspace without visiting GANTS intersection."

My name is Dale Wright and I am the National Air Traffic Controllers Association (NATCA) representative at Charlotte (CLT). We at CLT have been attempting for over six months to do away with the routes that take aircraft around our airspace. There are many obstacles in the way that have to be removed. The largest obstacle is automation reroutes. We are presently working with GSO to establish a routing to enter CLT airspace around PLUMM intersection (in the vicinity of Rowan County Airport). We have successfully changed the reroutes from the west and are now working on the east routes.

Roger Welke, a controller at CLT is a member of the National Airspace Redesign Team and is working on GSP routes that will run north and south on both sides of CLT. We are working the issue and any ideas you have will be appreciated.

Dale Wright
Facility Representative
Charlotte NATCA

AVweb responds...

I travel that route once or twice a month nowadays, generally filing direct to Chesterfield VORTAC (CTF) and then direct destination. And, you've nailed the situation: Before leaving GSO's airspace, I always find myself re-cleared to GANTS, then to CTF, when proceeding south to my family home in GA. This usually occurs at 8,000, the best altitude for me in that area, but also occurs at other altitudes, at least when southbound. This seems to be the case even when I've offered to climb/descend and/or go VFR-On-Top until past CLT's Class B. Interestingly, my northbound treks never seem to involve GANTS -- I generally get "as filed" via CTF at either 9,000 or 11,000.

All in all, the re-clearance is not a hassle -- just another part of doing business with ATC. The most frustrating aspect, however, is simply that going GANTS/CTF then direct will keep me closer to CLT's Class B for a longer period of time than the direct routing. <Sigh> Ideally, I'd just like to go direct from CSN to my destination, a routing that takes me almost through the center of CLT's CLass B. Of course, the only way to do that is to go VFR at or above 10.5 and Wx frequently prevents that.

For what it's worth, I've never had a problem with the staff at CLT and fully commiserate with you on the limitations under which you're forced to work. This experience comes from numerous trips through your airspace. Perhaps by publicizing these situations and the work you and your colleagues are putting in, we can find a fix. Please feel free to keep us posted on your efforts to redesign the CLT/GSO airspace. I'd be happy to "flight-test" it any time!

Thanks again for writing. Keep up the good work.

--Joseph E. (Jeb) Burnside, Executive Editor

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Tony Pucillo

30 Dec 1999

Billy Henderson Resignation from Sun 'n Fun

I believe AVweb did both Sun 'n Fun and Billy Henderson a disservice when it implied that in some fashion Henderson's departure was influenced by Jim Campbell -- or worse that in ANY way Sun 'n Fun did not fully support the action taken against Campbell for his decade of disruptions and lousy behavior. AVweb's exact words were:

The run-ins and lawsuits of the past couple of years involving Jim "Zoom" Campbell likely did not help lengthen his tenure...

which I can take no other way than implying Henderson's departure was caused by Campbell's preposterous and unsuccessful suit.

In fact, Henderson bent over backward in dealing with Campbell's behavior, as did the entire Sun 'n Fun organization (I have seen the entire file, which AVweb obviously has NOT bothered to do). It was Campbell who chose to demonize Henderson in an intimidation tactic all-too-familiar to those who have had to deal with Campbell's eccentric, grandiose behavior. Predictably, through superficial reporting and commentary, AVweb has again gone precisely where Campbell led them.

At least this time you stopped short of appearing to endorse Campbell's self-promotion, for which I thank you.

AVweb responds...

Tony, I'm afraid you read far more into our comment than what was intended. We simply meant to suggest that the exasperation of dealing with the Campbell situation very likely would have contributed to Henderson's decision to pass the baton after many years at the helm of Sun 'n Fun.

If you make a critical review of AVweb's coverage of the Campbell vs. Sun 'n Fun fiasco, you'll find that we took great care not to "choose sides" in the dispute, but to report it in a factual and objective fashion. The best proof of this is the fact that readers from both the Campbell and Henderson camps wrote to accuse AVweb of siding with the opposition, which is a pretty good indication that we did our journalistic job reasonably well. You can easily check this for yourself by pointing the AVweb search engine at our news archives and checking out our coverage for yourself.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Rich Burton

Garvey's Y2K Flight

AVweb wrote:

"Jane Garvey, eat your heart out. While the administrator of AVweb's favorite federal aviation agency is munching peanuts on her high-profile trek across the country New Year's Eve..."

While I can appreciate the amount of press Ms. Garvey has received regarding her trek across America on New Years Eve. I can assure you that she will not be boarding an aircraft prior to 0000Z which translates to 4:00 PST. If the air traffic system fails because of Y2K she will know well before she departs. While I am fairly confident in the ATC system, currently a controller and NATCA Union Representative at San Jose International, I am not sure the rest of the aviation industry is too confident. We will have a full compliment of controllers and managers on duty Friday evening however, we have checked with the users at SJC and it seems most carriers will parking their aircraft beginning at around 3:00p. Most have sighted there was just not the demand to be flying New Years Eve. but I think we all know the real reason why they have chosen this course of action.

AVweb responds...

Au contraire, mon frere. At the stroke of 0000Z, Administrator Garvey was flying over western Tennessee on American Airlines Flight 1099 from DCA to DFW. See Flight Explorer track:

Administrator Garvey's flight on 01-Jan-2000 at 0000Z

Upon landing after the UTC rollover, the Administrator faxed a message to the White House, using the words of a telegram sent by pioneer fliers Orville and Wilbur Wright nearly 100 years ago: "Success (stop) ... Inform press (stop)." -- once again demonstrating that she has the best scriptwriters of any FAA Administrator in recent memory.

As we predicted many times on this page, Y2K turned out to be basically a non-event for aviation. The degree to which this was a result of the widespread Y2K paranoia (as opposed to just conscientious and prudent hard work by those involved in aviation automation) is, of course, difficult to say.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Name Withheld

Unreported and Untreated Pilot Medical Conditions

In his response to Robert MacFarlane's AVmail of 27-Dec-1999, Mike Busch wrote:

When the FAA finally adopted a more enlightened policy on B.P. medications, I started taking an ACE inhibitor which instantly brought my B.P. back to normal.

Like Mike, I and so many others pilots are scared to death to even hint that we might like to take medication for our high blood pressure. I am borderline and over 50 to boot, with a large frame and weight to match. What can be taken that the FAA approves? Is there something I can show my family doctor so I take "the right stuff" so as not to lose my medical? (If you publish this, please do not use my name.)

CFMEII/ASEL-S/AMEL/AIGI

AVweb responds...

Nowadays, the FAA accepts almost all modern B.P. medications: ACE inhibitors, beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, and diuretics. The requirements are as follows:

1. When you visit your AME for your FAA medical exam, you must bring with you a letter from your treating physician stating the medication that you are taking, that your hypertension is being well controlled by that medication, that you are experiencing no side effects from the medication, and that your doctor now considers you at no greater risk for heart disease or stroke than the general population. (Or as close to that as your physician is willing to go.)

2. You also must bring with you an EKG taken within the past 90 days (I think, could be 60 days). If your B.P. medication contains a diuretic, you must additionally bring the results of a recent blood panel (to indicate that the diuretic has not screwed up your electrolyte balance). [I would suggest that you avoid taking diuretics.]

3. Assuming that you don't run into trouble on your aviation medical exam, your AME will issue you your new medical certificate as usual. He will send the physician letter and the EKG (and blood panel, if required) to the FAA in Oklahoma City along with the usual medical application form.

4. A month or two later, you will receive a letter from the FAA in OKC acknowledging their acceptance of those items, and informing you that you will be required to repeat the process (physician letter, EKG, etc.) at your next scheduled aviation medical exam.

That's all there is to it. I've been doing this for six or seven years now, and it's pretty hassle-free.

By the way, my recommendation is that you ask your treating physician to try an ACE inhibitor first. A recent study indicated that patients who take ACE inhibitors have a drastically reduced incidence of cardiovascular disease and stroke. Only if the ACE inhibitor fails to control your BP would I consider other types of BP medication.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Lincoln Schlecht

30 Dec 1999

FAA Policy on Airman Database

If the FAA will not allow current updates to the airman database, they should AT LEAST allow the removal of old addresses. It is terribly wrong for the residents at my old address to keep receiving aviation-related mail in my name, and there isn't anything I can do to stop it. Besides, I really would rather that the mail be sent to me via a current address!!

Is it possible to have a "e-mail petition" created to allow updating of the FAA databases?? I believe that the database being sealed, as it is, is terribly wrong.

AVweb responds...

I've spoken to both Administrator Garvey and Chief Counsel Garaufis about this matter. Both of them favor resuming updates to the airman database, but the position of the Chief Counsel's office is that the agency is precluded from doing so under current law. Relief was expected from Congress in the form of verbiage in the FAA reauthorization bill that explicitly authorizes the FAA to make the airman database information public once again with appropriate opt-out provisions for airmen who do not wish their information to be released. As regular AVweb readers know, however, Congress once again failed to act on the FAA reauthorization bill during 1999 before the congressional session ended, leaving this matter (and others, such actually using the aviation trust fund for aviation purposes) in suspended animation once again. Perhaps the next Congress will do better than the last two have.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Steve Dudka

30 Dec 1999

Friends Don't Let Friends Fly Drunk

I noticed you were fast to print the name of the mechanic for his suspected offence but were reluctant to print the name of the pilot who was flying while legally drunk! Should it be given any less attention that a student education driving instructor found driving impaired after working hours? His name would be in the local rag or your article for the aviation community, along with his business name to worn the unsuspecting of his/her irresponsible action. It appears that the rules of protecting pilots lives strong in the States as it does in this country, no matter what the crime.

AVweb responds...

Steve, you raise a valid point ... and in fact we tried to find the name of the intoxicated pilot, but on deadline our search came up empty. We had been alerted to the incident by a couple of letters from readers, but when we went to the source they quoted (the local newspaper) we found only an editorial -- which verified the facts as we relayed them -- but no names. A search in the usual national media outlets didn't turn up any further details.

We printed the name of the mechanic because he had been charged with a crime, and it was widely reported in the national media.

Be assured we have no desire to protect pilots who fly while drunk, and I hope we made that clear in the way we wrote the story. Thanks for writing, and thanks for reading AVweb!

--Mary Grady, News Editor

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Tom Jensen

30 Dec 1999

Y2K Follies

Happy New Year. Please thank the AVweb staff (and management) for another good year at AVweb. AVflash is the only aviation online newsletter for me! Timeliness and pertinence to a wide range of aviation issues always makes it valuable reading.

Regarding Y2K, I'll be doing my own midnight flight to see in the new year near Silly Seattle. In spite of official assurances on "readiness", the Seattle Center celebration for 50,000 people (and a private Space Needle party for 750) have been cancelled, all the ferry boats will be shut down cold, and the state Emergency Operations Center and 37 state agencies will all be manned. (The EOC is already on alert status.) I'm going to do an airborne radio check between the EOC and State Aviation division today, and again at midnight on the 31st, but you won't be able to track my flight.

"No risk to a single person" seems to be Mayor Schell's reason for all the alarm. Either there is a terrorist threat which he isn't talking about, or we have too many lawyers up here.

Keep up the good work!

AVweb responds...

Well, looks like we all made it through the Y2K barrier, Tom. The computers didn't crash, the power didn't go out, airplanes didn't fall out of the sky, and the Internet still seems to be pushing packets. Now if the banks just open on Monday...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Paul W. Spark

30 Dec 1999

Flight Explorer Personal Edition

I have to tell you that I subscribed to Flight Explorer PE first, I read your review afterwards. I was so intrigued that I could follow the flight of NASA's Mooney that I signed up right then!! Then I read your review.

Will WOW! convey my excitement? My problem may be keeping within the allotted 10 hours per month!! Please accept my proffered handful of kudos for pressing the FAA, Dimensions International et al to make this possible. There must be more than a few lookeeloos such as myself who will sign up just for the "fun of it." There are a bunch of us who just hang around any aviation-related stuff just because ... although I am an SEL with glider endorsement who passed his first private pilot CAA written exams in 1947, but my piloting days are on the wane ... not yet gone, but waning nonetheless.

So please accept my grateful thanks for persevering almost single-handedly to bring this marvelous, magical piece of software to my desktop. I have a fuzzy feeling that DI might just turn out to owe you big-time for pressing them to make FE available to us small fry, would-be aviation aficionados. I predict that there will be a bunch of signups, such as mine, not for gainful use but for pure enjoyment.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for your note, Paul. The ability to track aircraft for fun rather than for serious business use is precisely what motivated me to lobby so hard for FEPE. The serious flight trackers were already being covered. FEPE is intended to provide inexpensive flight tracking capability "for the rest of us."

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Andrew Alvarez

30 Dec 1999

Friends Don't Let Friends Fly Drunk

Over the years I have tried to look past the poor taste and even worse scripting of snippety and belittling comments made by your inept writers, and look into the merit of a story, but today 's report of the intoxicated CFI in Montreal was the last straw. Aren't you responsible enough to audit your own comments?

If you care to re-read the article, on the first half you report that "his friend tried to unsuccessfully talk him out of...." making the flight.

I would like to know what warranted the last statement of "Friends don't let friends fly drunk." As per YOUR report it states that they did just that within the confines of the law !!. By your thinking, do they have to beat him unconscious? Maybe hold him against his will? Maybe steal or incapacitate the aircraft?

I'm the Information Systems Administrator for the Department of Justice of a state. I can tell you that his friends would be in serious personal legal jeopardy should that have interfered with his right, however twisted or wrong, to fly under his conditions.

From CAP-Bashing to Women-belittling pilot performance to Panic-embedding Y2K issues, you all seem to do a great job of capturing the sick spirit of the National Enquirer and other such rags and use such techniques to twisted and mostly inaccurate personal opinions to otherwise viable articles.

You originally started out good, but from the moment that Mr. Kaputa (which can be pig-translated from the German word for "Broken" or "Inoperative") got involved with his personal "editorials," you have failed miserably as reporters and have dropped to the level of 13-year-old-Skinhead-brats with computers.

I have been deeply involved in aviation for the last 35 years, of which 3 were as the executive director of an EAA Regional Fly-In for which I have been a volunteer over the last 15 years. Through all my contacts and exposure to people in the aviation community, both local, national, and international, I've never seen the level of irresponsibility exhibited by your writing staff in aviation matters.

Be assured that I will make every professional effort to make everyone aware of the poison you're distributing, and steer them clear from your organization. You will enjoy the rotten fruits reaped from the sick seeds you have sewn.

AVweb responds...

For the record, AVweb Managing Editor Bob Kaputa has never written an article or news story for AVweb, editorial or otherwise. If you don't like what we write, your beef is with me (as Editor-in-Chief), not with Bob. Bob's primary responsibilities at AVweb are to provide member support and to serve as producer (not writer or editor) of AVweb's NewsWire, tasks that he performs superlatively I might add. Bob also is in charge of several other AVweb sections.

An additional correction to your note is necessary: this event occurred in Florida, not Montreal, as you state.

As for the inebriated CFI, if you don't believe that his pilot-friends should have taken all reasonable steps to prevent their intoxicated companion from flying -- yes, including letting the air out of the airplane's tires, if that's what it took -- then we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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R. Michael Baiada

29 Dec 1999

U.S. ATC: Countdown To Disaster

Tick - A Federal Express cargo jet took off from Providence and passed directly over a United 757 airliner, which had inadvertently wandered on the runway. (12/6/99)

Tock - A United B757 on takeoff from Los Angeles narrowly averts colliding with an Aero Mexico DC-9 which accidentally taxied on the departure runway.

(11/24/99)

Tick - Los Angeles Center air traffic controllers had to rely on their memory of the position of the aircraft they were controlling during a computer problem. (08/21/99)

Tock - Miami Center air traffic facility loses communications for 13 minutes. (7/9/99)

Tick - An MD-80 and a Merlin turboprop almost collide northeast of Atlanta. (7/1/99)

Tock - Atlanta Center main computer system crashes. Backup system (DARC) display is missing data. (6/28/99)

Tick - A FedEx DC-10 and an AIA L-1011 almost collide over Kansas. (3/3/99)

Tock - Dozens of departures delayed in the Northwest US when controller's displays at the Seattle Air Route Traffic Control Center went dark for 35 minutes. (1/16/99)

Tick - A Boston Center computer malfunction almost causes a mid air collision between a British Caledonian L-1011 and Delta Airlines B-767. (12/14/98)

Tock - A US Airways B-737 almost lands on a King Air on a runway waiting to depart New York's La Guardia airport. (12/14/98)

Tick - Boston Center failure for 37 minutes. (8/98)

Tock - A power failure at the Kansas City air traffic control center causes widespread havoc. (12/18/98)

Tick- FAA's air traffic system over the Pacific Ocean broke down for 16 hours. (1/9/98)

Tock - FAA's Minimum Safe Altitude Warning (MSAW) that should have warned air traffic controllers that Korean Air Flight 801 was dangerously below the normal airport approach path failed to work properly because of a programming glitch. (8/11/97)

Tick - A mysterious radar problem at the FAA air traffic control center in Palmdale stalled the arrival and departure of more than 100 flights at Los Angeles International Airport. (7/21/96)

Tock - Two jumbo jets approaching LAX came within about two miles of each over when air traffic control radios failed. (3/26/96)

Tick - LGA Tower and NY Tracon loss of Communications for 30 minutes. (6/26/94)

Is it me or does anyone else notice a pattern here? And then there is that damn ticking noise again!

Captain R. Michael Baiada
Evergreen, Colo.

AVweb responds...

And the AVweb Drama Critic's Award goes to ... the envelope please...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jim Mitchell

28 Dec 1999

FAA Inspector Shuts Down GPS Approach

I almost couldn't believe the shutting down of the Driggs, Idaho GPS approach [AVmail, 22-Dec-99] because a desk hadn't been surveyed. (If it had, would it be a federal offense to move it a few inches?)

Something else about the story struck me, however: I don't understand why such incidents don't name names. It is true that newspapers aren't supposed to give the names of juvenile suspects who have been arrested for some crime, but even though this inspector seemed juvenile, he probably didn't fit the legal definition of being under 18. May I suggest that AVweb try to get actual names in these cases of FAA inspectors and PUBLISH THEM IN YOUR ARTICLES. None of the rest of us can hide behind any sort of anonymity when dealing with the FAA, and I can't imagine a reason that an FAA employee should be allowed to.

I don't think we should try such people publicly, but I do believe that we tax payers have a right to know who is responsible for some action funded by our taxes. This principle applies at the highest levels of government, and it should apply right down in the ranks when someone "pulls rank" and makes such an apparently irresponsible decision as shutting down the Driggs GPS approach because a table or desk hadn't been surveyed.

AVweb responds...

Rich Sugden didn't mention the FAA inspector's name in his enote, and in a way it's hard to blame him so long as his home airport remains in this joker's jurisdiction.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Michael C. Sheridan

28 Dec 1999

NORAD's "Operation Santa"

I enjoyed the article on NORAD's Santa-tracking Web site, and passed it along to my two sisters, each of whom have children young enough to get a thrill out of such a thing. They reported that, alas, all of the little ones were asleep well before the event's midnight starting time.

I think that NORAD (or whomever) is doing a good thing by sponsoring this page, but would suggest that they consider turning up the brightness on their radar screens, so that they can report on the Old Saint's approach a little earlier in the evening, for the benefit of the younger "true believers."

AVweb responds...

Probably the earliest departure slot that Santa could get.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Chris Whittet

28 Dec 1999

Life Insurance Regulatory Changes

You ran this in "On the Fly" this morning:

"Life insurance regs change 1-2-00; you might want to call your agent..."

Do you have any more detail? I'd like to have more info before I call.

AVweb responds...

Our information is that U.S. life insurance regulations will change at the first of the year. Among other changes, 30-year policies will no longer be offered and shorter-term insurance will cost more. This information comes from one of AVweb's sponsors, The Pilot Insurance Center, and you can get more detail at  http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/piclife/.

--Joseph E. (Jeb) Burnside, Executive Editor

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Dan Baxter

27 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

The December 23 letter from Gary Dekker regarding overhead arrivals of formation flights of airliners reminded me of my own welcome to Viet Nam in March, 1967.

We rode a Continental Airlines Boeing 720 from Travis AFB to Bien Hoa racing the sun all the way. Darkness finally caught up with us after nearly twenty hours of daylight while we were on the ground for a refueling stop at Clark AFB in the Philippines. Our arrival over the southeast Asian coast came in pitch darkness shortly before ten o'clock local time.

During the let-down into the Bien Hoa area, the captain announced on the overhead speakers that the flight ahead of us had taken a sniper's bullet through the aft galley during final approach to the runway. He calmly announced his intention to minimize the risk by making an overhead approach. To further increase the "stealthiness" of the big Boeing, he turned off every external and cabin light. The panel lights were the only burning filaments on the aircraft as he brought the plane over the end of the runway and kicked it into a tight descending 360 degree turn to the left. He intended to keep the plane inside the airbase perimeter, and it was impressive from my vantage point near the tail as the long fuselage dipped and rotated tightly around the axis. The pilot did a great job of coordinating the turn, and g-forces were minimal.

About three-quarters of the way around, the gear and flaps came down and we leveled out just seconds before the initiation of the flare and a fairly routine touch-down.

I have seen the films of the 707 prototype doing its roll over the hydroplane races in Seattle, but this approach is the closest to aerobatics I have ever seen an airliner -- and we did it with a capacity load of wall-to-wall passengers! The pilot obviously had done it before (probably in a Navy fighter).

I am not sure I would recommend it for a routine arrival, but it can be done with a minimum of fuss when circumstances dictate.

AVweb responds...

It certainly would increase the requests for window seats...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Robert McFarlane

27 Dec 1999

Unreported and Untreated Pilot Medical Conditions

I have read all the responses to the QOTW regarding disclosure of medical problems.

I am dumbfounded by the stupidity of the people writing that they had two doctors in order to get around the problem. Not reporting a problem to anyone is one thing but to keep a known condition, known by another physician, that is, from the FAA and, most likely, their insurance company, is inviting big time trouble down the line in the event of a major accident involving loss of life and property.

Any insurance company with any sense is going to check into the medical history of the pilot. This is regardless of survival or not. If the insurance company can prove negligence of this sort they will deny all claims and the pilot/family will have to suffer the liability. I am not an attorney but it just makes sense to me.

I have lost my medical for the time being but have already contacted my CFI that he will have to join me when I want to take a $100 hamburger flight. Just being at the controls and in the wild blue yonder is good enough for me. Even if it's a permanent condition I will always keep flying. Legally!!! Who knows? I might just get good enough to pass the tests for an instrument ticket. While being denied my medical.

Doesn't that make more sense than what some of these poor idiots are doing?

And to admit it in writing, to boot.

AVweb responds...

The results of our QOTW on pilot medical conditions made it clear that many pilots -- perhaps even most pilots -- place such high value on aviation that they are willing to place their health at risk rather than risk losing the privilege to fly. This may not be logical, but it's human nature.

I personally lived with borderline high blood pressure for nearly a decade rather than take the risk of treating it and thereby running afoul of Oklahoma City. When the FAA finally adopted a more enlightened policy on B.P. medications, I started taking an ACE inhibitor which instantly brought my B.P. back to normal. I consider myself an intelligent and rational individual for the most part, but I risked heart disease and stroke for years out of fear of being grounded. Dumb, yes. Human, definitely.

And that's the whole point. There is no credible evidence that the FAA's medical requirements (as set forth in FAR Part 67) has made any measurable contribution to safety. To the extent that it has caused pilots (like me and the hundreds of others who posted confessions to our QOTW, and the tens of thousands who didn't confess) to jeopardize their health for fear of being grounded, I think it's highly likely that Part 67 has detracted from safety rather than added to it.

AVweb's aviation medicine editor, Dr. Brent Blue, is working on an article on this very subject. Look for it soon on AVweb.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jim Densmore

27 Dec 1999

FAA Policy on Airman Database

Just read AVweb's editorial on the FAA database and the privacy act: The FAA’s Privacy Decision: Throwing Out The Baby With The Bath Water

The FAA throws out the baby so often I'm surprised it occurred to you to bother to comment. Poor things are left crying in the street.

Just kidding, we ... well, at least I ... appreciate that you do take the time to make your comments, how else can the rest of us be informed on such issues? I, for example, don't make flying my profession (wish I could though); rather, it's my hobby. I need guys like you.

A request: Please date articles such as this so that we can tell when they were written. This has been around for awhile, right? I can't tell when it was written so I'm not sure how stale my comments to Madame Garvey or whoever would be. I'd appreciate your response.

By the way, when one sends an email to Jane Garvey or Nicholas Garaufis, who reads it? Do they ever see it?

I remember the first time I began to understand how things were going to go; it was simply a forewarning, a foreboding, of today's PC and posturing.

In 1969 or 1970 or something like that, a mere three years after DOT's creation, their research and technology division was dissolved. (Now, I was pretty young, but I still remember, because my Dad worked in the division at the time.) What ought a government transportation organization be for? Well, one thing that seems apparent, at least to me: strategic planning, long-term thinking, the kind of thing nobody but a government would have time/money to do. And that's what they were killing: strategic planning. And what does the DOT, and its FAA, do now? Short-sighted regulation and ass-covering. Your article merely cites a few examples.

Keep up the good work.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for your comments, Jim.

I've exchanged email with Mrs. Garvey on several occasions, but I certainly would guess that she has some minion who screens her inbox. I've been looking for such a minon of my own, but so far, no luck.

Incidentally, all AVweb articles are dated in the page footer, right near the copyright notice.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Michael Tansley

27 Dec 1999

Thanks For a Great Year of Info

I'm just reading the AVmail and noticed someone thanked you for providing the service. My thanks too. One of the highlights in the week is reading AVweb.

I enjoy the fact that you include international news (Canadian) and the fact that you will publish comments from people who don't always agree with you. This is an advanced concept that a lot of people can't handle.

Once again, thanks for providing AVweb.

AVweb responds...

Thank you for reading AVweb, Michael!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Robert Douglas

27 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I have been following the debate about airport congestion and how the airlines all try to schedule flights into and out of airports at desirable times, creating more demand for air and runway space than is available. As a regular business traveler, I have experienced these delays too. I have decided to put my two cents into the debate. I have worked in aviation for the past 18 years, first in product support for an OEM, then in logistics and technical support for the USAF.

Why doesn't the FAA auction off the available number of arrival and departure slots to the competing airlines? The day could be divided into 5 minute (or whatever time is necessary) slots, and these time slots could be auctioned. This should solve or alleviate the congestion problem while generating even more revenue for the Aviation Trust Fund (that our Senators and Congressmen wouldn't spend). The airlines winning the slots could then sell or trade them to other airlines as schedule demands changed. An alternative might be, if a winning airline does not make use of a slot for a period of time it would be re-auctioned. A friend who is a retired FAA employee tells me there used to be a slot system in place, but it was discontinued, apparently during the deregulation days.

Keep up the good work! I am one who enjoys the twice weekly format as it takes a bit less time to read, and allows insertion of late-breaking stories.

AVweb responds...

Do you really think the solution to airline delays is more government control? (Oops -- I just got an "anti-liberal bias alert" annunciator and a master caution light!)

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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David Jones

27 Dec 1999

Captain's Wiring?

Anybody able to tell me what is the meaning of the term "Captain's Wiring," and where I might find out more about it?

Seems there was a TV documentary item about it here, my non-flying friends are all asking about it, I missed the program, and a search under many guises on the internet has been unfruitful.

Seasons Greetings from Dunedin, New Zealand.

AVweb responds...

David, I think what your friends were talking about is "Kapton" wiring, a type of wiring used, among other applications, in many commercial aircraft. It has been suspected as an ignition source in several highly publicized aircraft accidents, including TWA 800.

There is an unofficial web page that has much more information on aircraft wiring, including Kapton, at http://members.aol.com/papcecst/index.html

Hope this helps, and thanks for visiting AVweb.

--Peter W. Yost, News Editor

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Troy Whistman

27 Dec 1999

Working On Our Wallets?

I got a chuckle out of this AVflash statement:

Since June of this year, AVweb has been telling you about the FAA's planned changes to FAR 145, and the impact those changes will have on both the 4,509 repair stations that work on smaller aircraft and your wallet.

While the statement was intending to refer to the CHANGES affecting both the repair stations and our wallet, and the word 'both' in that sentence helps make that point, I got a chuckle when reading the last part by itself -- was the pun intended?

...the 4,509 repair stations that work on smaller aircraft and your wallet.

Cheers!

AVweb responds...

Troy, much as we'd like to take credit for it, the double-entendre was unintentional, although it may have had Freudian origins. Thanks for the chuckle!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Cameron Pitcaithly

27 Dec 1999

Contaminated Avgas Downunder

The fuel scare that you mentioned to be affecting Australia is also affecting New Zealand. Mobil, Shell and BP sites are the ones affected, mainly in the lower North Island. For more details, see http://onenews.co.nz/National/1999/12/27/00014265.htm.

By the way, I'm a student pilot flying a new Cessna 172R. Our flying school apparently placed the largest C172R order outside the U.S.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the update, Cameron. Hope your shiny new Skyhawks didn't drink any of that nasty stuff.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Dick Madding

26 Dec 1999

Automated Air Traffic Control

AOPA Pilot has started a series on the future GA airplane. They make several predictions, "looking out 60 years". Well, the FAA is slow, but not that slow. The advances in transport aircraft computerization lead the way, and both GA aircraft and the ATC system are catching up. However AOPA appears to be missing a few things, and, while I don't particularly like it, I think the future is going to look like this [and we won't wait much more than 6, let alone 60 years, to see it].

The changes that are happening in ATC are driven by airline congestion of the major hub airports. The airlines aren't going to budge, because they recognize that the ATC system and airport infrastructure can be improved to accommodate their existing needs. And with enough pressure on Congress, the Aviation Trust Fund may well pay for it. To do this without long periods of gridlock or a major accident requires a revolutionary change in ATC very soon. Band-aids such as flow control, or predicting traffic 20 minutes into the future won't cut it.

Using existing technology, the air traffic system will be completely automated, from the time an aircraft using the flight levels taxis onto the runway until it exits the runway at its destination. Using datalink technology, the aircraft is controlled by a ground-based computer system throughout its flight, with the crew monitoring. VFR aircraft and those operating below 18,000 ft. are monitored by the ground-based system, and pilots receive instructions via datalink(both written and aural) necessary to their flight. Frequency congestion is eliminated. Everything in the air, including balloons, ultralights, and even parachutists is mode-S equipped. This includes all military aircraft. As occurs now with flight planning programs, the characteristics of each individual aircraft are entered into the system, with variables such as fuel and weight updated for each flight. Real-time weather and other traffic are presented via datalink(Universal Access Transceiver) to each aircraft, with traffic appearing as a winged icon, size and wing sweep indicating weight and speed, color being used to denote altitude(from Dr. Hugh David's work at EuroControl). However, the ground-based computer system, by controlling each flight-level aircraft through touchdown, provides routing and separation. The Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast system continuously monitors every aircraft, both on the ground and at any altitude.

Historically FAA computers have been much less than reliable. While they claim 'safety was never compromised' each time one of their systems fails, a failure in the automated ATC system could not be tolerated, any more than it could on today's glass-cockpit, fly-by-wire aircraft. The same triply redundant(at least) design philosophy would apply, or whatever it takes to get to 99.99999 (or better) reliability. Today's distributed computing systems can achieve this reliability, as contrasted with the FAA's antiquated systems in computing, uninterruptable power supplies, and cut-over technology. Software updates would run on a separate test system using real data to eliminate any errors prior to actual use.

Weather is often cited as a delaying factor in the present system. It will slow automated ATC also, but not to the extent it does the current system. Using satellite-based navigation, the radio navigation fixes and arbitrary satellite fixes used today will not exist. Rather the computer routes traffic to avoid the weather, slowing the enroute traffic as necessary well away from turbulence and ice, and if holds are required, implementing them at the most fuel efficient altitude. Each aircraft will become a weather reporting station, continuously transmitting weather data into the system. Autolanding is used, although Forward Looking InfraRed Heads Up Displays will be required in flight-level aircraft. The crew will have input into the system based on their interpretation of the cockpit weather display coupled with the view outside the cockpit.

Safety will be greatly enhanced through use of an automated ATC. At the beginning of the flight, the system will not launch an aircraft if it is improperly configured for takeoff(Northwest Detroit and Continental DC-9 Denver), another aircraft is on the runway(Canary Islands 747's), or there is an intersection conflict(Quincy, IL). Controlled Flight Into Terrain will not occur(Frank Sinatra's mother, TWA-514 Dulles, Guam). Midair collisions will be avoided(Cerritos, Indianapolis, Urbana, OH). Runway incursions will not occur. Pilot's will see the position of their aircraft on the field via their MultiFunctional Display, with a 'follow me' line for taxiing to and from the runway, including automatic aural instructions at key points.

Peak-time capacity at major hubs will increase substantially, especially where runways have the appropriate high-speed turnoffs and taxiway capacity to handle the increased load. This will be achieved by precise separation in all weather conditions, which can be done safely when the computer controls the speed and altitude of every aircraft in the stream. Wake turbulence avoidance will be included in the computer programming, allowing the tightest possible spacing consistent with clearing the runway after landing. Increased separation for adverse runway conditions will also be programmed in, as will Land And Hold Short procedures, with the added safety of avoiding the calculated potential collision window(remember, the system controls the start of the takeoff roll). MOA's and Restricted Areas will not be as much of a factor as they are today. While the system will not control military aircraft in their practice areas, transit through those areas will be based on actual occupancy by the military. If the President is not at Camp David, the system will fly aircraft through the restricted area. Since the system provides anonymity(aircraft identifiers are not presented on cockpit displays, only size, speed, and altitude), special procedures for Air Force One(ask Senator Voinovich of Ohio about this) and Hillary's campaign airplane are not necessary. With direct flight a reality and regional jets in use, airlines may opt for more point-to-point service, relieving pressure on the hubs.

The cost of such a system is quite low compared to past FAA 'upgrades'. All of the equipment and some of the software exists now to implement the system. The FAA currently has a contract to install the GPS, cockpit display, and datalink radio into 150 aircraft in Alaska for $3.9M(AOPA Pilot, November, 1999, p37). If electronics industry experience is any guide, that $26,000 per aircraft would decrease by at least a factor of 10 if installed fleet-wide. The military have already developed the datalink-to-autopilot protocol for their Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. The major cost would be the computer network and additional software.

Collateral benefits: privacy would be improved. Your aircraft ID would not be public as it is today(selected business aircraft excepted). Assuming the government learned their lesson with the IRS fiasco(a BIG assumption, I admit), few in the FAA would have the ability to identify aircraft or pilots during normal operations. FAA enforcement of in-flight violations would be straightforward. For those in the flight levels, there would be no violations while the automated system is in control of the aircraft. Fuel costs would be minimized, especially beneficial for transport aircraft. Finally, this system can be installed and operated in a rehearsal mode while the present system continues to function. It can be operationally tested in appropriate areas before putting into full-scale use, avoiding the 'teething problems' associated with major changes to a system.

The ATC system is in a crisis mode now, perhaps even more so than in 1981. Full automation absolutely maximizes the effectiveness of Air Traffic Control. By itself, this will not solve the air traffic problems. Ground-side infrastructure and practices will need similar improvement to realize the full benefit of a modern ATC. And AOPA is irrationally exuberant to think that the future will be as much fun as the past, regardless of your type of flying.

AVweb responds...

Dick, I'd take issue with your comment that "the FAA is slow, but not that slow." At risk of sounding like an old fart, let me point out that I wrote the lead article in the April 1970 issue of "Air Facts" magazine (published by Leighton Collins, Dick Collins' dad), in which I described a GPS/ADS-based automated ATC system providing pilots with full situational awareness and self-separation capabilities. Of course, the terms "GPS" and "ADS" had not yet been coined, but the desirability of such a system was readily apparent 30 years ago, and the technology was all within reach at that time.

The FAA spent the next three decades throwing up one roadblock after another to the implementation of such a system. I consider it naive to expect that they will now move with all deliberate speed to implement a free-flight system that uses technology rather than human labor to keep airplanes safely separated. Do you really think that the FAA will give up its ATC empire without a fight?

Also, if and when they do, what makes you think that we will benefit from the new technology? During the 1980s, I watched in frustration as the FAA discarded the ADS concept in favor of a TCAS technology that was so expensive to preclude it from being used by anything but airliners and bizjets. I see no reason to believe that an FAA-designed free-flight technology, whenever it finally comes to pass, will be affordable by those of us who use pistons and propellers for propulsion.

Yes, I'm cynical about the FAA's role in technological advancement. So shoot me.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Dr. Marcelo A. Saavedra

26 Dec 1999

Cockpit Videocameras

I would like to make known my opinion about "cokpit videocams".

First of all, I think that they infringe privacy and increase unnecessarily the pilot stress factor. In general, workers do not want to be videotaped at work.

In parallel with this, I think that videocams do not improve safety. Maybe they could improve investigations in some way. Perhaps they could be useful in extreme cases like EgyptAir 990 to know what happened and who was in the cockpit at the time of crash. But one such case does not justify the installation of those devices which will cost millions of dollars to the airline industry. Think that many other airline disasters were resolved with only the CVR and FDR help. In short,

I believe that the cons are definitively bigger than the pros.

Dr. Marcelo A. Saavedra
Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Miles Reese

25 Dec 1999

Thanks For a Great Year of Info

I may have no life, but you guys have the best Web site on aviation on the backbone or anywhere else. When I steal a couple of minutes, I look at the article and then whoops, there goes a couple of hours. The FAA should make AVweb a mandated stop for all "airman" types.

AVweb responds...

From your lips to Jane's ear, Miles! Thanks for the kind words. Look for even more and better from AVweb in the coming year.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jess Petton

21 Dec 1999

Congress and the Aviation Trust Fund

I'd like to see AVweb:

1. Publish a list of all the State Senators with their e-mail addresses.

2. Show us how they voted -- for or Against GA -- plus any additional info on how they voted on committee amendments.

3. Enlist the support of all of your readers to send at least one e-mail message per week (or more) to their senators, to support or criticize the senator's vote and request an explanation if they voted to keep the Trust Fund Locked Up. We could forward the really good answers to you and the editors of our local newspapers.

We have two problems with the politicians:

1. Democrats -- They want user fees.

2. Republicans -- They don't have the guts to balance the budget without the Trust Fund.

If the safety of GA (and commercial aviation, too) can't be improved because Congress won't release the Trust Fund money, then it's time we set the stage for the next great air disaster. The headline should read: Senators Contribute To Air Deaths!

Pilots have a responsibility when they fly. Senators have a responsibility on the administration of our Trust Fund. The choice senators make by not spending "our money" on many needed improvements that can help reduce aviation accidents and fatalities should be placed squarely at the senators doorstep.

Additionally, where exactly, do Bush, Gore and Bradley stand on the release of the Trust Fund money?

AVweb responds...

Great questions, Jess! AVweb's own Beltway Bandit, executive editor Jeb Burnside, is feverishly working on an editorial addressing this very issue. Look for it soon.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Howard Phorson

23 Dec 1999

Santa's Flight Plan

Santa is not American. The North Pole (magnetic) is in Canada!. The FAA can only inspect and "approve American registered aircraft." We have, of course, a bilateral agreement on airworthiness etc.

The sleigh is a homebuilt and needs no airworthiness certificate per say.

The geographic North Pole of course is on an icecap with no particular political connection.

Santa is derived from a Turkish Saint adopted by the Dutch first as a Christmas gift giver.

Any how the best we can do is agree that the only people getting almost the same treatment as Santa are Air Force One!.

Happy flying from up here in the frozen north, and Merry Christmas.

AVweb responds...

Appreciate you setting us straight, Howard. We'll try our best to get the message to FAA Headquarters that some aircraft are simply outside their jurisdiction.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Chris Lilwall

23 Dec 1999

Virtual Towers

In addition to NASA's and the FAA's virtual towers, NAV CANADA has two tower simulators -- one gives a 180-degree display and the other has a full 360-degree view. These simulators, in use for several years, use rear projection, computer-generated graphics using high-resolution screens to present a "virtual" view out of any one of the several tower views in the database. Located at the NAV CANADA Training Institute in Cornwall, Ontario, Canada, these simulators are used in Basic Air Traffic Control training, as well as training for some of the busier Canadian towers and some non-Canadian ATC clients.

Chris Lilwall
Supervisor
Air Traffic Control Training
NAV CANADA

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the info, Chris!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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John Averill

23 Dec 1999

Citation Crash at Cordele, Ga.

Regarding the Dec. 23, 1999 AVweb NewsWire (On the Fly), I understand preliminary reports from the hinterlands are sometimes inaccurate. The Cordele, Ga. (CKF) airport does not have an ILS approach. The best available is the LOC Rwy 10 which apparently the approach the pilot was cleared for.

AVweb responds...

Last time we believe an FAA preliminary accident report! Here's a direct quote from the FAA prelim, on which our story was based:

ACFT WAS CLEARED FOR AN ILS APPROACH TO THE ARPT WHEN RADAR/RADIO CONTACT WERE LOST, THE ACFT WRECKAGE WAS FOUND A FEW HOURS LATER, THE ACFT HAD BEEN DESTROYED, AND THE PILOT/SOLE OCCUPANT SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES, OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNKNOWN, CORDELE, GA.

--Jennifer Whitley, Research and Copy Editor

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Rich Sugden M.D.

22 Dec 1999

FAA Inspector Shuts Down GPS Approach

A couple of weeks ago a FSDO inspector from SLC, who was in Driggs Idaho (U59) for another reason, calmly asked us if our "desk had been surveyed" -- where our certified altimeters are located -- so that we can give "accurate" altimeter settings. "Well, no, but the FAA just spent about $3,000,000 on airport improvements, including surveying all the ground, extending the taxiway, resurfacing the entire airport, etc. ... so we know how high the table is +/- about a foot."

That wasn't good enough, so he immediately NOTAMed our much sought-after GPS approach as "not available," and told us he thought he could do something about getting the table surveyed in "a month or two." You would think that with all the work we went through to get our approach, someone would have suggested that the table needed to be surveyed -- and, how accurately can you read an altimeter, anyway? With winter coming on strong, that's the last thing we needed

Well, one of our friends at FAA in D.C., Jim Enias, was able to get things moving and we're back in service after only a couple of weeks -- and lots of lost business!

Just another example of how they're "here to help us"!

Rich Sugden M.D.
Jackson, Wyo.

AVweb responds...

AVweb's aviation medicine editor, Dr. Brent Blue, is also based at Driggs and confirms this absurdity. Does it strike you that some of these inspectors have too much time on their hands?

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Name Withheld

22 Dec 1999

FAA Policy on Airman Database

My agreement with removing the database:

As a police officer and a pilot, I have wanted to change my address with the FAA also. But the FAA won't let me use a PO Box, so my home address shows up -- wonderful after I've arrested a couple of wealthy drug dealers with many connections and smarts. State law protects my address information from any public database (property/personnel file) upon my written request, but it can't cover out of state records or therefore federal databases. So do I lie to the FAA and tell them mail can't be delivered to my home and then draw a map to my house and use a PO Box?

My disagreement with removing the database:

As a police officer trying to get into our flight unit, I want to be able to check on the certifications of my competitor pilots to see if the department is promoting on politics or qualifications. In addition, long after losing contact with fellow aviators, I would now like to do a search and find some of them to see how they are doing. Its hard without a current database.

Like anything else, there are pros and cons to this issue. I stand on both sides. Ultimately, one side weighs more than the other. Safety of individuals like myself or freedom of access.

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Gary Dikker

23 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

As many readers have astutely pointed out, a prime factor in the "Airline Delay Blame Game" is too many airplanes arriving at (or taking off from) the same place at the same time. It's not an "airspace congestion" issue as much as it is a "runway capacity" issue.

For ways to get large numbers of airplanes on or off a runway in a short period of time, both the FAA and the air carriers should look to the Air Force and Navy.

After a military career in the Air Force flying F-4s and as a T-38 instructor pilot, I am still amazed at the number of sorties we could handle on a flying base during a day. In Air Training Command, we routinely had sorties scheduled every three minutes through an entire day, and each of those sorties typically averaged 4 or 5 touch-and-goes once in the traffic pattern. When working as the runway supervisory officer, it was common to have a T-38 landing every 20-30 seconds. And we did that with little more than a UHF radio, a clipboard holding the day's flying schedule, and a set of well-thought out arrival and departure procedures.

We also did it by spreading out the sorties from early morning to late at night (not bunching all the sorties into a few "premium" hours of the day), and by flying aircraft in formation as much as possible. A four ship formation of aircraft represents only one blip on an air traffic controller's radar screen, but increases capacity fourfold.

When the weather permits, an overhead pattern is still the most efficient way to put a lot of airplanes on a runway in a short time. And its a beautiful thing to watch. I have never been on a Air Force base where the entire base population didn't stop what they were doing and watch as a four-ship formation of fighters flew down initial into the break.

Certainly no landing surfaces is more congested or has a tighter capacity than that on an aircraft carrier, yet the Navy routinely does it successfully. And as Don Brown points out, every time you watch a Discovery or History channel special about aircraft carrier operations, the Navy seems to be controlling it all using grease pencils on Plexiglas boards, and by pushing little plastic airplane models around a scale model of the flight deck. As Don says, "Hmmmmm, I wonder how they do that?"

Now to my point (finally):

I say this somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but has anyone in the FAA or with the air carriers thought of flying in formation on the most heavily used, congested routes, and into the most heavily used, congested airports? For common, heavily used routes such as Boston-New York, New York-Washington, Chicago-Atlanta, Atlanta-New York, etc. where several airlines schedule simultaneous departures and arrivals, wouldn't it ease departure, arrival, and en route congestion if their airplanes flew in formation? As in the military, a four-ship of 737s, 757s, or DC-10s is only one blip on an ATC radar screen, but would increase capacity four-fold. Upon arrival the formation could either fly an overhead pattern pitching out to land, or for straight-in approaches, 'drag' on final to get the required landing spacing. Putting air carriers in formation would be a fairly simple move that could increase departure, en route, and arrival capacity within our existing system.

Think of the possibilities it would open up to air carrier pilots and dispatchers: The FAA could have a new rating called, "Flight Lead Certified." And of course an FLC pilot could command pay commensurate with the certification and responsibility. Dispatchers would learn to coordinate gate push away times so a four-ship from United, Southwest, Continental, and TWA could assemble on the ramp and taxi to the runway together. Another chance for an added certification and increased pay.

And the air carriers could no doubt use it in their advertising: "Delta, the airline with more flight lead certified pilots than any other."

A big advantage would be that passengers would at last pay serious attention when the flight crew tells them to fasten their seat belts and put their seat trays in the full, upright position. I can hear it now, "Ladies and gentlemen, we will be turning onto initial at O'Hare Field in 90 seconds. Please ensure your seat belts are fastened and tightened -- AND we really mean tightened -- before we break at the numbers." (Oops, on second thought, the air carrier attorneys and public relations people probably wouldn't permit their pilots to say "break at the numbers.")

And perhaps best of all, what aviation enthusiast wouldn't stop whatever he or she was doing to watch the spectacle of a 757 four-ship in echelon, flying down initial into an overhead pattern?

AVweb responds...

Not to mention the increased demand for window seats! A truly out-of-the-box solution, Gary!

I can't see why the FAA powers-that-be wouldn't consider this. After all, ATC has made use of MARSA (Military Assumes Responsibility For Separation) for years with great success. Therefore, AARSA (Airlines Assume Responsibility For Separation) shouldn't be that much of a stretch.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Robert Sadler

23 Dec 1999

AA's Fokker F-What?

Regarding the newswire story on today's post about the AA "F-28" at Dulles last Friday that rolled across the ramp, I'm sure you intended to call it an "F-100." I know for certification it's listed as an "F-28 Mk 100," but nobody knows it as anything other than an F-100. (Other than those who call it the Barbie Fun Jet, or the Electric Jet, or the Big Motor Fokker, etc.) What everyone calls the F-28 is shorter, older, has an airstair door, etc. USAir used to have some of them till they sold 'em to Air 21 in Calif. who then went Chapter 11.

AVweb responds...

You're right, Robert! We took that designation directly from the FAA accident report, which listed the plane as a "Fokker F-28 Mk 0100." Near as I can tell from Jane's, the 100 is a stretched version of the original F-28. But everyone calls it an F-100.

Including AVweb, now that you've corrected us! <g>

--Jennifer Whitley, Research and Copy Editor

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Ross Mason

23 Dec 1999

Santa's Flight Plan

Great job on the AVflash. A small point though: Shouldn't Santa's tail number be C-HOHOHO, inasmuch as the flight is Canadian in origin? Merry Christmas!

Ross Mason
Cu-Nim Gliding Club
Calgary, Alberta

AVweb responds...

Absolutely correct, Ross! That'll teach us to accept an FAA press release at face value.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Ed Krol

23 Dec 1999

Santa's Flight Plan

After reading the article about NORTH POLE TOWER, KRINGLE ONE READY TO GO... and the comment about Air Force Two getting the cooks tour of Tennessee by ATC, knowing how pilots like to muse about what-if FAR interpretations, I pose the following question: If Air Force One and Santa both were flying to Little Rock on Christmas Eve, would ATC prevent Santa from entering the airspace and endangering his mission?

AVweb responds...

No. Our understanding is that the only aircraft that takes priority over Santa's flight is "Executive Flight 1," the aircraft used by Hillary Rodham Clinton. The PR types at 800 Independence Avenue deny this, of course.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Gerald E. Milburn

23 Dec 1999

Choice of Words in AVweb News

I usually enjoy the "inside" objective reporting in AVweb and AVflash -- but, I wonder how we ever expect to cut out the sensational style reporting from "run of the mill" media personnel when our own use words like hurled, careened, tumbled. Get the drift?

Most of us can use our imagination to generate the scary part. After 25,000 hours and thirty years of airline flying, believe me, these issues like the American MD in Arkansas bring back memories. The American Captain should not have attempted a landing in those conditions, but he did.

My experience has taught me one of the biggest check marks on a Proficiency Check or a training ride is the Judgement column. Only way one can gain this is to live it. You can't bypass the knowledge of experience.

I like your newsletter but you should be aware of the word thing. Words are your business.

Thank you for listening,

Gerald E. Milburn
Sr. Director Flight Operations - Retired
US Airways

AVweb responds...

Your point is well-taken, Captain Milburn. I've hurled your comments at the AVweb newswriting team, causing them to careen and tumble into a state of deep lexical remorse and profound self-reexamination.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Joseph Gilroy

23 Dec 1999

NWA DC-9 Fuel Truck Collision

I wanted to give you a little information that may help to further clarify the news piece I say in today's AVweb news flash regarding the Northwest DC-9 and the fuel truck that collided at DTW. I was an eyewitness as I am a Northwest A-320 Captain.

It would be nice for the crew involved if you would note that the aircraft was under tow and still connected to a tug when the collision occurred. The news flash can be interpreted to mean that the crew taxied into the truck.

Thanks for a fine publication, I enjoy AVweb greatly.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the clarification, Joe!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Paul Moore

21 Dec 1999

Kudos to AVweb

I am an instrument-rated private pilot and look forward to your twice-weekly "publications" of AVweb. They are not only informative but also humorous. I have recommended your site to several of my aviation friends who now also enjoy reading your columns. The FAA, like seemingly all other government agencies, has adopted an increasingly threatening posture towards GA of late and I am tired of their Big Brother attitude. You help the aviation world by bringing to light their sometimes-ridiculous postures and decisions.

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John R. Saunders

21 Dec 1999

Chase-Durer Pilot Chronographs

I just had to let you know about an order I placed via AVweb. My wife, had me ordered the Chase-Durer "Fighter Command" (Black Steel) watch -- my Christmas gift from her -- on-line on Saturday, December 18.

The door bell ring today (December 21). It was the UPS delivery man with the watch! Wow ... Chase-Durer sure knows how to do business the right way. And yes, the watch is very well made. Also, the price that was offered on AVweb was "damn good."

Happy Holidays!

AVweb responds...

John, does your wife have an unmarried sister? Seriously, thanks for the feedback!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Roy O. Wright

21 Dec 1999

Security Checkpoint Rip-Offs

Well I was finally ripped off going through a security check point at Austin Bergstrom the other day. Luckily it wasn't much, just a paperback book. What really irritated me was the security personnel's "it's not our problem" attitude.

This started me thinking about ways to secure passenger's belongings while passing through a security check. The simplest solution that I came up with was change the procedure to:

1) Put belongings on x-ray table. Wait for them to enter the x-ray machine.

2) The baggage check operator halts the baggage in the x-ray machine until the owner clears the metal detector.

3) The owner and their baggage meet at the exit to the x-ray machine.

Also it might help to limit access to the baggage by roping off corridors.

Another nicety would be for the security personal to have forms available for reporting stolen items.

It would be nice if we could hash out ways to improve the security check points on AVweb, then if we reach consensus on a solution, pass it on to the FAA and airlines.

AVweb responds...

While I've never lost anything going through a security checkpoint, the potential has sure made me nervous. I've heard plenty of stories about folks getting expensive laptop computers snatched. You were lucky to have lost just a paperback book. You're right that this problem needs more attention than it's gotten.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Larry Dighera

21 Dec 1999

Illegible Airport Surface Markings

The poor condition of the surface markings on many airports are contributing to unsafe conditions. If the FAA is serious about reducing runway incursions, as mandated by DOT in the January 1991 Runway Incursion Plan, the obvious first step would be to notify airport managers that surface markings of their airports must be brought up to compliance with the standards set forth in AC-150/5340-1H. If the FAA were to implement such a plan nationally, their effort to provide safer airport environments would be VISIBLE to everyone using an airport, and impose NO COST to the government. Such a program would do much to quell the type of scathing criticism of the FAA contained in the Office of Inspector General's 1998 Audit Report of the Runway Incursion Program (AV-1998-075).

Because the surface of the taxiways is no longer black, but has weathered to a light gray color, the Holding Position Marks do not conform to AC-150/5340-1H. The excerpt from that AC below clearly states that, "All runway holding position markings on light colored pavements are to be outlined with a black border. This procedure is required on concrete pavement surfaces, and light colored asphalt surfaces."

AVweb responds...

That all makes sense except your "no cost to the government" remark. Who do you suppose pays for this?

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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David Reinhart

21 Dec 1999

AVweb's Anti-Liberal Bias

While not in complete agreement with Doug Shepherd's "anti-liberal bias" comments [AVmail 16-Dec-99], I feel he does have a point. As a freelance writer and former journalist myself I have frequently felt that too much editorial comment makes it into the "straight news" articles you publish. There's nothing wrong with any publication advocating positions or expressing management's opinions on social issues but the place to do that is on the editorial page, not page one.

AVweb responds...

David, while there's no doubt that it's important for readers to be able to distinguish "straight news" from editorial comment, that doesn't necessarily imply that comment must be relegated to a separate page. When AVweb inserts editorial comments into news stories, we endeavor to make those comments sufficiently obvious (or outlandish) that no reader could possibly mistake them for anything else. One of our primary goals is to make AVweb news more enjoyable to read than the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, and sometimes that means pushing the edge of the journalistic envelope a bit. When we push too far, our readers aren't bashful in letting us know.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Tom Teller

21 Dec 1999

Doc Blue's Emergency Medical Kit

Doctor Blue, thank you for your excellent article -- which I read very carefully, and found a it very useful message to our community. I had a couple of specific questions that I would like your thoughts on, to further refine my own thinking.

I am a Wilderness First Responder (SOLO-trained), and WEMT in training (I will complete in March). As a scout leader, I often lead groups of boys (and adults) into the wilderness, usually for a weekend, but sometimes for much longer. My medical kit I must carry on my back, and I trade-off the ounces very carefully, so I am constantly rethinking my own choices. One thing your article has prompted me to do is to throw another dozen Band-Aids in my kit (I prefer the Curad flex fabric) and another dozen 4x4s -- which get used at a prodigious rate when injuries occur.

I was surprised that I didn't find a couple of items that I carry in mine, and would appreciate your thoughts:

  • 20cc irrigation syringe
  • debriding brush
  • Thermometers (hypo and hyper)
  • Emergency Dental kit (clove oil or Anbesol and Cavit or similar)
  • glucose
  • Sawyer extractor (probably less useful outside the backpacking/ canoe expedition world)

I also carry (with written protocol from my medical supervisor) an anaphylaxis kit  (I carry EpiPens, but the Anakit is lighter).

I carry Gatorade powder for electrolytes (mixed half strength it works very well) and Jell-O packets as my preferred mild hypothermia treatment (Cherry of course).

I would appreciate your comments on one or all. Thanks again for your excellent article.

Thomas L. Teller
Scoutmaster & WFR
Professor, Aviation Division
Daniel Webster College

AVweb responds...

Tom, thanks for your comments. It is always hard to know where to stop when assembling something like this. Let me make some comments about your suggestions.

Irrigation can be done with the eye wash bottle which is 120 cc of normal saline. The bottle is a squeeze plastic one. It is actually just as effective running tap or even stream water over the wound.

I don't use a debriding brush. Usually a wet 4x4 is enough or the enclosed towel. Debridement usually hurts a lot in the acute setting and may not hold any advantages over washing with soap and water and then packing with provoiodine.

Thermometers might be helpful but I generally use the back of my hand. A person is either hot or cold. In a isolated situation, the treatments will not be significantly affected by the absolute number. The only exception might be in determining whether a helicopter might be called in but this is probably best decided on clinical signs instead of absolute temperature.

A dental analgesic is a good idea. I have never had anyone with the problem so I just did not think of it!

Glucose was only left out because most diabetics will carry something if they are brittle (difficult sugars to manage). However, any candy bar or fruit juice will usually work.

I did not realize anyone used the Sawyer Extractor any more. As I said in the article, using a scalpel blade and suction if done immediately after the bite may have some theoretical value but most doctors feel this has more potential for harm than good. The extractor has not been shown in clinical studies to do much. If you know of some new documentation, please let me know.

Epi pens or kits can be useful but have a short shelf life and require training and supervision. Although I have set people up with them as well as other drugs, I have always done this on a one-on-one basis.

The kit includes some electrolyte tablets which are essentially the same as Gatorade without the sugar. I have never used Jell-O water for hypothermia.

Thanks again for your comments.

--Brent Blue M.D., Aviation Medicine Editor

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K C V Courtenay

20 Dec 1999

Fuel Selectors in Low-Wing Homebuilts

I cannot find a definitive answer to a question put to me yesterday by a gentleman who's constructing an RV: He was told -- by someone who "really knows his stuff" -- that it's illegal to put a fuel selector with a "both" option in a low-wing aircraft.

I told him that I'd never heard this in forty years. However, I haven't heard everything, so there may be something out there on this. If it's in the FARs, I've missed it.

Thanks for the best site in cyberspace!

AVweb responds...

Dear K C V, your friend is incorrect. (I hope you had a bet riding on it.)

I spoke to a builder who constructs experimental aircraft as a business (he has built Oshkosh grand champions, etc.) and he assures me that the term "Experimental" means exactly what it says. Since the craft are "Experimental," builders are at liberty to put in 36 fuel tanks, tanks with a "both" option, tanks with a "none" option ... whatever in the world that person wants.

That's not to say that it's easy to design such a fuel system that's reliable, only to say that it's not prohibited by the FARs.

--Liz Swaine, News Writer

Well, we had a chance to knock your question around here a little today. I'll spare you the specifics (and our liability), but I'd like to pass on the two basic themes we arrived at. Make sure you read them both:

1)No one over here commented that they were aware of any regs in place that would forbid a "both" type valve in the fuel system of a low-wing experimental.

2)No one here made any positive comments on the subject of low-wing "both" type valve installations. Frankly, all the comments were pretty negative.

The moral: It may be legal, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

More Important: I know that they DO NOT encourage this particular idea at Van's.

In a perfect world, your friend would know that already. It should be a rule for any homebuilder to check with the designer before he does anything that is not in the plans. That stubborn methodology is not just for safety, but for practical insight. Van's is a successful company in a business where that quality is not easy to come by. With more than hundreds of RVs flying, Van's knows about plenty of builder mods that have worked and plenty that haven't.

Your friend should not be shy to take full advantage of all the experience available to him through Van's. If he does, he'll learn more about his project and it will turn out better for a shorter build time.

FYI: Van's can be reached at: (503) 647-5117. Have your friend call and ask for Tom Green -- or anyone who can answer a question about fuel systems. To get them started, just mention the idea and ask about differential venting.

--Glenn Pew, News Writer

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Christopher Jones

20 Dec 1999

Teledyne Continental Motors' Latest Ad

Just cracked the cover of my January 2000 copy of Plane and Pilot magazine, and, in the inside cover and second page ad by Teledyne Continental Motors, a curious item caught my eye.

The ad is for Continental's new sales policy explaining that for very few extra dollars, one can purchase a brand new Continental engine for little more than a rebuilt one. Nothing interested there until you look closely at the photo of the "new" engine. Stamped on the mount area of the crank shaft is a "REBUILT" stamp.

AVweb responds...

Uh oh. Guess we know what TCM Critical Service Bulletin CSB 00-1 is going to say...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Darryl Phillips

20 Dec 1999

AVweb's Anti-Liberal Bias

In my view, AVweb doesn't exhibit an anti-liberal bias. [AVmail, 16-Dec-99.] AVweb exhibits a pro-aviation bias (as it should). Unfortunately, aviation has a very strong anti-liberal bias and any accurate reflection of aviation (such as found in AVweb) will reflect this anti-liberal bias.

Do you doubt the existence of this bias? Go to Oshkosh, the Mecca of homebuilt aviation, and look at what occupies the skies. Warbirds. Listen as the announcer goes on, hour after hour, extolling the virtues of war and killing. Ditto for airshows from coast to coast. A very strong anti-liberal bias.

Or look at the printed media. Boating magazines don't feature nuclear submarines, car magazines don't devote pages to armored personnel carriers, hunting magazines don't picture anti-aircraft cannons, and skiing publications don't show World War Two SS troops. Ditto for magazines about cooking or jogging or whatever, they don't focus on military applications. In each case, the publication caters to its constituency without regard to political bias. Not so in aviation, all pilots are expected to either love the F16 or go away.

How many pilots would paint big government insignia on their cars? Our cars don't look like vehicles belonging to the FBI or DEA or Army. Yet many aviators paint their planes -- even ultralights -- in quasi-military colors. Again, a strong anti-liberal bias selectively applied to aviation.

So the question isn't "why the AVweb bias?" but "why the aviation bias?" And more importantly, what effect does this bias have on our freedom to fly, vis-a-vis freedoms of boaters, hunters, skiers, and those equally patriotic Americans who enjoy other pursuits?

Everyone interested in the future of personal aviation should ponder that question.

AVweb responds...

Gosh, Darryl, we bash a couple of New Jersey governors for political grandstanding, and now we're war-loving militarists? That's quite a stretch.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Allan Armistead

Carry-On Baggage

I was interested to read your recent article regarding the concerns of flight attendants and carry on baggage (AVflash 5.51a). Clearly the practices allowed in the U.S. explain the stunned reactions of some U.S. tourists in Australia when boarding domestic flights.

Here in Australia, our airlines have limits on the number and size of articles allowed in the cabin, test frames are used to check dimensions and prominently available in the terminal areas for passengers to "self check", and a weight limit of 4kg of total carry on baggage applies. Though some discretion is applied, it is not unusual to see passengers at the boarding gate having their "would-be" carry on bags taken from them and consigned to the hold. I have actually seen a set of scales at the boarding gate and all carry on baggage weighed! - boy, did that cause some consternation.

As a frequent flier, I say go for it. Flight attendants, I'm with you.

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Name Withheld

20 Dec 1999

Delta Flight Attendant Drug Test Firing

My sister is a Flight Attendant with Delta and I forwarded the following item from AVflash 5.50a to her for her info and comment:

DELTA FIRES EMPLOYEE OVER DRUG TEST: Delta Airlines fired a flight attendant whose random drug test revealed -- no, not illegal drugs, but an excess of water. Delta's take is that diluted urine could reveal an effort to disguise drug use, but according to Yasuko Ishikawa, a seven- year employee who passed all previous drug tests, she just drank a lot of water on the nine-hour flight just prior to the test -- as Delta encourages employees to do to combat dehydration.

In reply, I received the following from her today:

I just received this Question/Answer thing from Delta regarding "substitution or "adulteration" of urine samples for drug screens:

Q: I have heard that a small person who drinks a lot of water could provide a sample which registered as "dilute" under the testing regulations. Is that true?

A: That is correct, but a "dilute" result under the regulations is NOT a substitution or adulteration. An employee whose sample was "dilute" would not be disciplined and Delta has not disciplined any employee because their sample was "dilute". This is different from a test result which comes back "substituted" or "adulterated." By definition, there is no legitimate medical explanation for a "substituted" or "adulterated" specimen and the regulations REQUIRE that such a specimen be treated as a refusal to test. Whether a sample is "dilute" or "substituted" is determined by measurements of the amount of creatinine, a substance found in normal human urine, and specific gravity. A dilute specimen contains an amount of creatinine consistent with that of human urine and more than that found in a substituted specimen. For a sample to be "substituted", the level of creatinine must be SEVERAL TIMES lower than the level of creatinine in normal human urine.

I guess that girl probably PUT some water in her urine if she was really fired from her job, don't you think?

The science in Delta's answer appears to make sense. I'm no airline apologist, but it does sound like the gal's story may have a problem. For my sister's sake, I'd prefer that my name is not used for publication.

AVweb responds...

John, it's hard to comment more on the fired FA's case without the lab's numbers. It is STILL true that a person can be below the DHHS/DOT specific gravity and creatinine levels without adulteration or substitution. But we can't get the whole story, because Delta has declined AVweb's specific request to comment on this specific issue, citing corporate policy never to comment on personnel matters.

The danger is that blanket human physiology assumptions are only GENERALLY true, perhaps even 99.9% of the time. But people come in all shapes, sizes and metabolisms. Without interjecting some medical thinking into the process, it is possible for specific individuals to be specifically fired by applying a 99.9 percentile physiological finding. In other words, given what we know about this case, I would keep an open mind. I speak from the experience of having been a Medical Review Officer for a large DOT-mandated drug testing consortium, and also for the nuclear energy industry.

--Kim Broadwell M.D. AME, News Writer

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Ed Prest

20 Dec 1999

Mexico's Y2K Insurance Audit Policy

I believe, some time in the 1920s or 1930s, Mexican authorities were left to chase Americans who had accidents and "vamosed" back to California. This abuse is prevented by requiring Americans to purchase a Mexican insurance policy, so victims can get compensation from inside their own country. Check Senterfitts book for more accurate info.

AVweb responds...

Those Mexican officials must have long memories.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Charles C. Evans

20 Dec 1999

Carry-On Baggage

Why can't the airline industry solve this chronic problem? It's a classic case of misunderstanding the customer (or, more likely, not caring), and misunderstanding the "reward system" that the industry has set-up for its passengers.

Look at the system and the incentive.

1. Airline baggage handling has a worse reputation than the U.S. Post Office for losing, damaging, and delaying items not carried on. Further, there is no fair system for insuring for losses or compensating fairly for the loss (at least the post-office offers insurance). Why would any sane person willingly give a package to an airline for their custody and care? The most durable luggage that luggage designers can devise is routinely damaged or destroyed by airline baggage handlers and systems. If mail was lost or damaged at the rate that air baggage was, there'd be a national revolt, insurable or not.

2. I've never seen carry-on baggage weighed by any airline. And, with a weight-limit in place, there's a real incentive to carry the heavy stuff on the plane to avoid baggage charges.

3. The consequences of lost or damaged luggage (at least on the outbound leg of a trip) is fairly severe. Business materials necessary for a trip are damaged or lost, negating the value of the trip. Clothing is lost or damaged and substitutes are very difficult and expensive to obtain. Expensive sporting goods (golf clubs, skis, etc.) are lost and damaged, etc. Why take the trip if you can't be assured of having the materials that caused you to take the trip in the first place?

4. While baggage has a weight limit, passengers do not. If I'm a 98 pound person or a 350 pound person, my luggage limit is the same. Clearly, larger persons cost the airline more to move from place to place. Perhaps there should be a seat standard (like the little frame that your luggage must fit in) at the gate and everyone should be forced to sit in it to see if they fit the seat. If not, upgrade to a seat class with larger seats or pay for two seats. This system would allow a higher luggage limit for the rest of us, and also might make the ride more pleasant for the adjacent person sharing the armrest.

The savvy passenger understands this environment and behaves to maximize the benefit (or minimize the risks) by carrying on whatever they can.

The incentives:

1. It's safe (for what you're carrying) - - and, besides, the airline is supposed to avoid doing anything that would cause luggage to fall out of the overhead bins - - and provide bins that are safe.

2. It's cheap. Overweight luggage could cost me more if detected.

3. It's quick. Why wait for my checked, damaged, uninsured luggage at the carousel (and afterwards possibly stand interminably at the lost luggage counter) when I have my stuff and can head directly for the car rental line before it gets too long. After all, I'm already late for my next appointment because of ATC delays, airline indifference, inefficient baggage handling, etc.

4. It gives peace-of-mind. If I don't let my luggage out of my sight, it'll be with me when (and if) I get there.

Otherwise, why on earth would I want to tend 80 pounds of stuff and lug it around when I could get on without the heavy lifting, trying to get to my seat with 10 cubic feet of stuff down that skinny aisle, and hope that another passenger hasn't beaten me to the overhead bin space, and have my leg-room consumed by crap I had to carry on? Basically, the whole air travel experience is stressful, uncomfortable, inconvenient, and unpleasant. No wonder the cabin crew complain.

Perhaps we need a new aviation discipline -- air-passenger ergonomics. If someone in the industry cared enough to look at the travelling public as a valued customer rather than an obnoxious necessity in the pursuit of revenue, some creative solutions to the problems could be found besides policing.

Give me incentives and protection for handing my valuables over to the baggage department of the airline, and I (at least) will GLADLY check my bags. Make checking bags a good deal. Otherwise, Continental Airlines seems to have it right.

I'll tell ya that the old 182 looks better and better as the airline industry struggles with their ineptitude dealing with their nemesis - the traveling public.

AVweb responds...

Chuck, I was with you right up to the point you started talking about higher airfares for heavier passengers...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Vince Massimini

20 Dec 1999

F16 Golfing Story

Concerning the tag line of your story about the bomb accidentally dropped on a golf course by an F-16:

"Air Force officials are trying to determine why the bomb fell."

Tell the Air Force the reason was: gravity. Reference is Principa Mathmatica by Sir Issac Newton.

AVweb responds...

By Jove, I think you're onto something, Vince. Gravity: It's not just the smart thing ... it's the law.

We'll notify the Air Force.

--Liz Swaine, News Writer

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Joel Edwards

20 Dec 1999

ZTL Gives VP Aerial Tour Of Home State

What a stroke of luck! Imagine... Al Gore, inventor of the Internet, now presented with the opportunity to update our air traffic control system. I can't wait!!!!

AVweb responds...

Do I detect a hint of anti-liberal bias in your remarks, Joel?

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Harry Weissman

19 Dec 1999

Mexico's Y2K Insurance Audit Policy

I read this with absolutely dumb amazement. I've been flying our small airplane to our place in Mexico for almost 40 years but have recently given up Mexican air travel, since their government seems determined to discourage us gringos from spending our money south of the border. They demand a $40 bill to use their airspace (each trip) plus a landing fee of $8 each way, plus a $15 visa (per person) and now they want a Y2K provision on our insurance?

We never know from trip to trip what the politics (and local costs) will be south of the border. That's why we've quit taking our beloved plane into Mexico.

Many of their ports of entry in Baja don't even have telephones and wouldn't know a Y2K problem if it hit them in the eye, so anyone who flies his own plane is really asking for trouble if a new oportunity for "mordida" is established.

AVweb responds...

Without doubt, it certainly would be wise for all U.S. pilots to double-check the latest Mexican rules and regs before heading across the border, especially since they've been such a fast-moving target lately. In my experience, AOPA's travel department has been quite helpful in this regard.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Doug Johnson

19 Dec 1999

Doc Blue's Emergency Medical Kit

Dr. Blue's article and recommendations for an emergency medical kit were excellent!

With my background as a former Boy Scout, Scout Leader, Army Cobra Pilot, and having been required to take a few courses in First Aid, survival training, and being a camper, I have always wondered why some of the junk they put in there was in these "ready-made" kits to buy! Over the years, I had made up a few of my own "design" for different purposes (auto, backpacking, regular camping, and hunting), but not having any in-depth medical education and, not being a physician, I always wondered if they were any good.

Thank you very much, Dr. Blue, for the great information. I enjoy your great article(s) in AVweb all the time, particularly FAA medical info. and the great article about your F-15 Eagle ride!

Doug Johnson
Captain
American Airlines

AVweb responds...

Thanks very much for your very kind comments, Doug.

--Brent Blue M.D., Aviation Medicine Editor

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Joe Lemanski

18 Dec 1999

Y2K Restroom Closures at Louisville, Ky.

I was visiting Louisville, Kentucky recently and stopped in at the local Flight Service Station at Bowman Field -- it's a great, longtime facility with a friendly and knowledgeable staff. Posted on the entry door and on the counter was an FAA notice stating that effective January 1, 2000 new security actions would limit public (pilot) access to the briefing counter area only - all other areas of the building, including the RESTROOMS 20 feet away (through a doorway), would no longer be accessible. I do not know if this is a national policy, but this action seems ridiculous! The locals are already use to the concrete pylons restricting auto parking adjacent to the building. What's next -- bank teller windows?

As a T-hangar tenant who has used these particular facilities many a time with my growing family while living in Louisville over the past 20 years, I find this inconsiderate state of affairs very disappointing and will have to revise future flight planning to provide alternative relief. Perhaps this is just another step on some obscure plan to discourage face-to-face contact with a briefer -- it certainly encourages telephone or Internet sourcing. Pity the poor soul that arrives or departs the airport after the FBO's have gone home. Wait a minute ... maybe that's why those bushes were planted along the walkway going to their door...

AVweb responds...

Don't get us started on the subject of @#$%^&! airport security, Joe!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Peter Dougherty

18 Dec 1999

Toronto's Missing Runway 06L

What a wonderful online publication! I have enjoyed it for years and I think I can answer a small riddle from the Thursday edition.

At CYYZ they are building another parallel runway a few hundred feet south of what used to be 06R/24L. So, what today is called 06R/24L will eventually become 06L/24R and the new one will get the 06R/24L designation.

However, they also have approval to construct a new parallel runway at the north end of the field to go along with what used to be 06L/24R. With four parallel runways they wanted to avoid the never-used LC/RC designation and go for a model that was adopted in Atlanta and other 4-runway airports--use the next designators closest to the runway heading. In Pearson Airport's case, the 24 parallels are heading 237 degrees, and up until about 10 or 15 years ago, they were the 05/23 parallels.

The odd part, though, is that the north parallel will be many years away from even the start of construction (if, in fact air traffic levels even warrant its construction). So I'm speculating that they simply wanted to keep a separate single runway designation until the new parallel is built, and get pilots and controllers accustomed to the 05 designation.

Therefore, when all the rebuilding is complete there will be a pair of 05s and a pair of 06s! For more info check out http://www.gtaa.com/Pearson%20Airport%20Tomorrow/airport.htm.

AVweb responds...

Peter, we received numerous emails from readers -- including a number from controllers at Toronto -- but yours is probably the most complete explanation we've seen. Thanks for sharing it.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Bob Shofer

17 Dec 1999

Mexico's Y2K Insurance Audit Policy

I was shocked to read in this weeks AVflash that some kind of Y2K endorsement is required on the Mexican insurance policy from Dec. 31 to Jan 4. That is precisely the time we will be flying south. Our insurance company (insurance purchased through Baja Bush Pilots) knows nothing about this. Can you expand on this or be more specific. Please reply as quickly as possible as the enchanted hour draws near.

AVweb responds...

Bob, we received the following information from CS&A Insurance. More information, including contact information if you'd like to call them, can be found at their Web site, as well as at the specific links referenced below. I hope this is helpful!

Mexican Aviation Liability Insurance Alert!

Most typical aviation insurance policies issued by companies domiciled in the U.S. include Mexico as a part of the territorial limits of coverage. That means, if a covered loss occurs in Mexico, the company would respond to a claim as it would in any other area covered by the policy (e.g., U.S., Canada, as specified in your policy.)

The government of Mexico requires that you have insurance under a policy issued by an insurance company domiciled in Mexico. Regardless of the limits of coverage or the territorial limits, terms or conditions provided by your regular aviation insurance policy, you must purchase a Mexican liability policy to be legal operating in Mexico.

[NOTE: See CS&A Aviation Insurance newsletter regarding Mexican Liability Insurance. Also, see related article about "Y2K" issues.]

The Mexican government only very recently announced that it will be "auditing" all aircraft entering Mexico during the period from December 31, 1999 through January 4, 2000 for evidence that the required Mexican liability coverage includes certain provisions relating to the famous "Y2K" issues.

Some aviation insurance companies are automatically issuing the necessary endorsements on Mexican liability policies they have issued. Perhaps others will do the same thing. Apparently the Mexican government gave very short notice of the "audit" and requirement for the "Y2K" wording. It is not clear if the requirement will continue past the "audit" period.

If you are planning a trip to Mexico in the near future you should check with your insurance agent/broker/company to be sure you are legal in Mexico.

Best wishes for a safe and happy trip.

--Jennifer Whitley, Research and Copy Editor

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John Wilks

17 Dec 1999

NASA Future Flight and the AFTIL

We have all read about the NASA Future Flight virtual air traffic control tower for years and its many delays. Did you know that the Federal Aviation Administration Airway Facilities Tower Integration Laboratory (AFTIL) has had an operational virtual tower for a number of years? We are located at the William J. Hughes FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City Airport, New Jersey.

Unlike the NASA system with its massive funding, we have operated on a shoe-string budget providing a six screen (each screen 6 feet by 8 feet), 240 degree out-the-window display including photo-realistic background, voice controlled aircraft, and full scale tower cab mock-ups. We also provide airport planners, air traffic control specialists and others with pre-construction out-the-window tower views of proposed air traffic control towers to include building shadow studies, and transition issues. You can visit the AFTIL web site at this URL: http://www.tc.faa.gov/act200/221/index.html

AVweb responds...

Actually, John, we were unaware of AFTIL until receiving your note. Many thanks for the info.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Bill Palmer

17 Dec 1999

Piggyback "Ces-per" Landing

Your report of the unusual landing where one light aircraft landed on top of another caught my eye. To my knowledge this has happened at least once before -- at RAF Church Fenton in Yorkshire in the early sixties, a Jet Provost on an instrument final flared under a similarly flaring Jet Provost coming from a visual final.

Here also, no-one was hurt -- the under aircraft braked for both of them and they stayed on the runway.

It took a while for everyone to disembark, however!

AVweb responds...

Bill, we received several similar reader notes. Apparently, there have been at least several such double-decker arrivals like this, most without major injury to the occupants. Amazing!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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John Roncallo

17 Dec 1999

FAA Position on ReliefBand?

I have purchased a ReliefBand and I am very pleased with it. Typically I don't usually have problems with motion sickness for normal flying, but recently I have started taking Commercial lessons. With the repeated maneuvers practiced during my Commercial lessons, I'm finding the need for the ReliefBand. Use of the ReliefBand has extended my typical lessons from a very uncomfortable and unproductive 1.3 hours to a highly productive and easy to do 2.5 hours. My understanding is that this device is okay to be worn by the PIC since it is not a prescription device.

My question is this: I can understand the FAA allowing pilots to wear this device since it has no side-effects. However, if a certificated pilot needs this to fly, shouldn't his or her medical certificate require a limitation requiring the ReliefBand?

AVweb responds...

John, the medical regs basically say that if a person has motion sickness which requires medication, it is reportable and requires extra paperwork all the way up to special issuance. The ReliefBand is not a medication or drug and does not fall under those regs, so there is no requirement to report to the FAA that you use it.

In addition, since motion sickness can be unlearned, it falls into a very different category than, say, myopia or presbyopia (for which corrective lens limitations are required on your medical certificate).

--Brent Blue M.D., Aviation Medicine Editor

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Jack Arnold

17 Dec 1999

Piggyback "Ces-per" Landing

One thought that crossed my mind as I read about this event: Thank god the age 60 rule doesn't apply to us GA folks. I realize we don't know how they got to this point, but as far as stick & rudder is concerned, Mr. Vangee already has my vote for AOPA INSTRUCTOR OF THE YEAR at next year's convention. I'll bet Barbara Yeninas would give Mr. Vangee her vote also.

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Joe D. Webb

17 Dec 1999

Piggyback "Ces-per" Landing

We're not worthy! We're not worthy! How did these guys get this 'thing' down? Looks like they would have been fighting each other for control. Were they talking to each other during the landing? Did they continue to run both engines? Please don't leave me like this! I have to know more!

AVweb responds...

I've tasked AVweb's crack interviewer, Joe Godfrey, with trying to snag an interview with one or more of the Ces-per pilots.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Donald J. Purney

16 Dec 1999

Trainees At Work In Chicago ATC

Is Chicago Center short of controllers? Yes and no. The center is broken down into 8 areas. Each area is responsible for training it's own people but there must be people to do the training as well as trainees. Some areas are in good shape, such as the North East area where I work, others not so good.

The South Area at ZAU is the one most hurting. I spoke with a controller in that area and was told that in the last 2 years or so they have lost 17 people to retirements, promotions, transfers etc without a corresponding input of replacements. Trainees ARE NOT pulled out of the classrooms to fill these vacancies! "Trainees" that are certified at two radar positions can be used to staff positions FOR WHICH THEY ARE CERTIFIED! These people are FULLY QUALIFIED to work these radar positions. The problem arises when they are used continuously for staffing and their training is not continued on additional positions. This delays advancement to Full Performance Level which would allow them to work any position in their area. Of course being an FPL allows greater flexibility in staffing various shifts, opening or closing sectors etc. Even if FPL controllers are transferred in from other areas or facilities they are "trainees" until they can be certified on the new (to them) airspace and this can still take months or years, even for experienced people.

The South Area is short of trainers but not trainees. There are enough bodies but not enough certified controllers. Rehired PATCO controllers are not the answer. A few do well but most are struggling. It has been too long and they have not had the chance to grow as traffic increased and learn new equipment. It is one thing to grow as traffic grows, quite another to come back to nearly triple the number of operations that you left in 1981.

Finally, yes ZAU is short of "bodies." Probably every Center is. After the huge hiring push that followed the PATCO strike the FAA closed the Controller Academy in Oklahoma City. There was an attitude that there were plenty of recent hires and that there were enough people for years to come. Well the years have caught up with the FAA and in typical fashion the agency has been caught short. The pipeline of developmental controllers is dried up. The Controller academy should have been re-activated years ago to provide a gradual influx of developmentals. There is a controller program at a college in the Minneapolis area and we have recently received a few people from them but it will be years before they are FPL's and they are too few. Many of those people hired after the PATCO strike are coming up on retirement eligibility in 2 years and then the exodus will begin. Some would like to stay on but retirement is mandatory at age 56. Pilots at least get to go to age 60. (Most PATCO rehires are grandfathered. This age law was put into effect in the mid "70's. One woman was re-hired at age 62!)

I don't know the solution for the controller shortage but we are not using unqualified trainees on positions. We will continue to provide the best service we can but the shortage can only get worse due to the lag in hiring.

Donald J. Purney, controller
Chicago Air Traffic Control Center

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the detailed note, Don. We did not mean to suggest that unqualified personnel were manning the positions, but rather than Chicago ARTCC was both short of FPL controllers and lagging in bringing its trainees up to FPL status.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Col. Larry Myrick

01 Jan 1998

CAP California Wing Grounding

I am the commander of the Calif. CAP wing. Just to set things straight. I subscribe to AVflash and enjoy it.. The wing was grounded by the Pacific region Commander not the National commander. This happened the 9th of Dec. As of today, the 16th of Dec. the majority of this wings pilots have been lifted from grounding. All flying activities are continuing as planed or required.

AVweb responds...

Thank you for the update, Colonel.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Bob Pearce

16 Dec 1999

CAP California Wing Grounding

The article published this week does not address the problems found by the IG group from DOD. Our local squadron has 24 pilots, half of them are not active. Therefore, these pilots do not have completed updated data in their jackets. Of the balance, 11, the discrepancies were only minor and the items were corrected within a hour or two at the last meeting. Of the 11, 6 had no discrepancies and were legal to fly any CAP mission assigned.

Errors included: dates, last medical dates not listed, copies of said medicals, pilots license., CAP card, etc., or not having an annual test in the jacket but only the answer sheet. This test is taken on the Internet and electronically scored through HDQ. If one does not print out the test, he was dinged. Big deal! It's just how one interprets the book.

However, there were other squadrons that were in worse predicaments. I feel that our squadron with only a 50% rating, had an excellent score since there were no major discrepancies. The Wing decided to hold everyone accountable until all is updated and completed to their satisfaction.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the detailed information, Bob.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Shaun Shanahan

16 Dec 1999

Toronto's Missing Runway 06L

Shhh, top secret, but it has to do with Canada's new Metric Magnetic Variation.

Some other excuse may be the addition of two more parallel runways in the future, I guess their theory is a little confusion with two parallel runways now is better than more confusion with 4 parallel runways in the future.

Still doesn't make much sense to me, I did not know that runway numbers could be named at random. How about 06 north 06 south 06 inner left 06 inner right or even better, 06 curly 06larry 06moe & sometimes 06shemp.

Shaun Shanahan
YYZ ACC

AVweb responds...

We definitely like your Metric Magnetic Variation theory the best, Shaun.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Brian Behal

16 Dec 1999

Laser Eye Surgery

I am considering Excimer laser surgery for my eyes. I currently hold a commercial instrument rating and a class 2 medical. What is the FAA's position on Laser surgery?

AVweb responds...

Brian, the FAA will require a one-time report from your doctor which basically says your eyes are okay. After that, nothing else. However, some airlines and the military have certain restrictions.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Doug Shepherd

16 Dec 1999

AVweb's Anti-Liberal Bias

As a liberal who loves aviation, I grow very weary of the apparent and increasing anti-liberal bias in your reporting. Every week I can count on at least one politician being lambasted on your Web page, and strangely enough, it's ALWAYS a democrat.

Look, you're entitled to your opinions, just as I'm entitled to mine. I personally feel like user fees are a GOOD idea -- why should the general public pay to support my expensive hobby? Why should people who choose not to fly (or can't afford to) be forced to help support the facilities for those of us who do? GA is a luxury, unlike other necessary public facilities like schools or fire fighting resources, and it seems fair to me that participants in GA should be primarily responsible for funding the facilities.

You may choose to disagree with me -- but that's my point. My viewpoints are mostly liberal, but that doesn't mean you need to stomp all over them on a weekly basis. I would certainly agree that the FAA is hidebound, a prime example of bureaucracy at its worst, and far too concerned with legislating our field and far too unconcerned with improving it...but don't lay all that on the liberals. It's too much of an overgeneralization to say that liberals are anti-GA and conservatives are pro-GA. Case in point: FDR was one of the least GA-friendly presidents we've had in the aviation era, and JFK was one of the most GA-friendly.

GA certainly has a strong conservative membership, but remember that there are liberals who love aviation too. If you differ with their opinions, fine, and if a politician says something stupid regarding GA, you have every right (and responsibility) to report it. But could we put an end to the vituperous name-calling and mud-slinging? I love keeping tabs on what's happening in aviation, but it turns my stomach sometimes when I have to wade through what seems to me a fair amount of conservative propaganda. Could we be just a little more tolerant of people whose agenda and priorities are different than our own, please?

AVweb responds...

Doug, it is not our fault that New Jersey is full of Democratic mayors. The AVweb staff looks forward to the day that we can gore more Republican oxen, once the citizens of New Jersey throw those Democratic bums out and elect some Republican bums in their stead.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Mario Fernandez Gonzalez

16 Dec 1999

Mexico's Y2K Insurance Audit Policy

Concerning your story:

SORRY, SENOR, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT PAPERS:
The Mexican government only very recently announced that it will be "auditing" all aircraft entering Mexico from December 31 through January 4. Officials will want evidence that the required Mexican liability coverage includes certain provisions relating to Y2K issues. Many insurance companies received short notice of this somewhat vague requirement for a special Y2K endorsement, so check with your insurance agent before you go south of the border, in order to avoid any unpleasantness (like having your plane confiscated or going to jail).

I strongly believe that by making comments such as the one at this story would not help anyone.

To begin with, we each try to protect our assets the best way we feel is appropriate. What the Mexican government is requesting is only a warranty from your insurance company that it covers all the Y2K related problems. If you do not have such papers, what will happen is that your airplane will be grounded for that particular span of time while on or over Mexican territory or airspace. Exactly the same thing happens to Mexican (or for that matter, to any foreign aircraft) as we try to ingress to the US. If we do not have ALL THE PAPERS REQUIRED BY THE FAA, DOT, USCS, ETC. the airplane will be returned to wherever it is coming. I do not dispute your right to treat foreigners the way you feel best, so please do not question our right to do the same.

By the way, NO ONE has gone to jail for not having a paper. Who do you think you are dealing with, a country of incompetent, stupid people?

Mario Fernandez
Transportes Aereos Sierra Madre

AVweb responds...

We took a bit of a pot shot at Mexico not for requiring the endorsement, but for NOT giving adequate notice of the new policy. AVweb has received other letters from concerned pilots flying to Mexico over the holidays requesting more info. They didn't know about the policy, and neither did their insurance companies.

If you are a regular AVweb reader, I am sure you have noticed we do not discriminate when it comes to pointing out bureaucratic foibles -- we certainly go after the U.S. government with great regularity!

--Kim Broadwell, News Writer

Sr. Fernandez, while I have you (!), I should add that as a West Coast pilot who flies into Mexico regularly, I have long felt that Mexico's very unusual policy of requiring foreign aircraft flying in Mexico to have special insurance written by a Mexican insurance company is both unnecessary and burdensome. I've never understood why Mexico feels it necessary to impose this requirement when most other nations do not. Adding insult to injury by requiring a special Y2K rider on these aircraft insurance policies strikes me as a ridiculous overreaction to what most knowledgeable observers expect to be a relative non-event.

But none of this was the point of our news story. When we learned about Mexico's poorly-publicized policy of conducting Y2K insurance audits of U.S. aircraft crossing the border in early January, we felt it our duty to get the word out.

Admittedly, the "going to jail" barb was gratuitous and we apologize for that.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jim Hill

16 Dec 1999

Toronto's Missing Runway 06L

I read the short query about our renumbering of Rwy 06L/24R. I am a controller working in Toronto Tower, and I thought perhaps I could dispel the mystery. 06L was renumbered because eventually we will have four east-west parallels. 05L/R, and 06L/R. They will all have identical runway headings. The new 06R which lies between the existing 06R and 06L (which parallels 06R about a half mile south of it) is more than halfway paved. Apparently the local airport authority had a fear that from the air, a pilot cleared for a visual to Rwy 06L might actually make a play for the existing 06R thinking it to be the runway that will become 06L. Additionally, by calling the north parallel 05/23 now, everyone will get properly conditioned to it's number before the new runway (06R) opens at the end of the year 2001. This is the explanation that I got anyway.

Jim Hill
Toronto Tower

AVweb responds...

Jim, I read your note a half-dozen times, and now I'm thoroughly confused!

I think we get the basic idea. Years from now, Pearson will have four parallels named 05L, 05R, 06L, and 06R. Between now and then, runway nomenclature will be a moving target, and we better not get behind in updating our Jepps.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Eric Grundmann

16 Dec 1999

Trainees At Work In Chicago ATC

I have a few comments about AVweb's "Trainees At Work In Chicago ATC" article in this week's NewsWire...

First, there seems to be a lack of facts presented in the article supporting the general tone of the article. It seems that it is rather "un-newsworthy," not having been given all the facts. In real life, trainee controllers are always working live traffic, either as a D-side [data side, a controller processing flight data and handling intercom communications but not talking to pilots or controlling airplanes; -ed.], a radar trainee, or a partially-certified radar controller. Once you are certified on a position, you are expected to work it on your own when not training on other positions. It appears that what is happening in Chicago is that controllers are being pulled out of radar training classes to work D-sides, thereby freeing up radar-certified and FPL [full performance level; -ed.] controllers to work the radar positions. While I have only seen that sort of thing happen a couple of times in the last 10 years of my career, it is perfectly normal, legal, and useful in most operational situations, especially if staffing is low. I highly doubt that any FAA supervisor would put their career on the line by making a trainee work a position that they weren't certified on.

Second, it appears that your numbers probably don't tell the whole story. The statement should have probably read "355 are FPLs, and 71 are trainees." This sheds a completely different light on the story. Some of those 71 trainees are certified on the D-sides, and waiting a radar class, or are actually training on the radar positions. And probably, some of those 71 trainees are not certified on any operational position, and are not working live traffic. Just because a controller is not an FPL, it doesn't mean that they aren't allowed to talk to or work real live airplanes. Of course, not having seen the report, this is all just theory.

Third, it appears that the gist of the report is that the Chicago ARTCC has a large number of trainee controllers and not enough money to provide training classes to them, which, in reality, is a common problem in more facilities than just Chicago Center. This is supported by the comment, "The report said a funding problem has hampered the pace of training, and called for more money." After all, if this report were are about trainees working positions they weren't certified on, the report would be about the mass disciplinary action occurring at the Center.

One last comment, a picky one. The subject of this news item appeared to be Chicago ARTCC. The picture you provided was one of controllers at a TRACON (the picture is even titled tracon.jpg). Your subhead mentions controllers at towers. Most informed pilots and probably all controllers that read your site know the difference between the types of ATC facilities, so please try to be more specific with your captioning.

Eric Grundmann
Ft. Worth ARTCC

AVweb responds...

Thanks for your note, Eric. We certainly did not say, nor mean to suggest, that controller-trainees were working positions without proper qualifications. The NewsWire story intended to convey the idea that Chicago ARTCC has a shortage of FPL controllers and also a shortage of training funds to bring their trainees to FPL status. Yes, we know that other facilities have similar problems -- in particular, we've discussed the situation at Atlanta ARTCC at considerable length in recent weeks.

As for the graphic portraying a TRACON PVD rather than an ARTCC display, we were just checking to see if you were paying attention.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Paul R. Meyer, Jr

16 Dec 1999

Making GA Aircraft Safer

With all the conversation relevant to the "loss of Spatial Orientation", and the weekly occurrence of high time pilots loosing their (and their passengers) lives due to vacuum instrument failure, all to often (seemly) on approach in IMC weather, the immediate question, other than multiple instrument redundancy as with the airlines is, might there not be the development of a "vertical GPS" system, with wing tip sensors, the could provide immediate WING LEVELING SENSING, AND ALTITUDE, AND with "NMEA 0183" type autopilot integration, be available for use in emergencies?

WHAT or WHERE is the state of AIRCRAFT PARACHUTES? Weekly in your news letter there appear aircraft accidents that might have been averted, or could have taken advantage of an alternate or optional "out", rather than a situation that ended ultimately in severe injury or death.....that is, controlled horizontal decent rather than uncontrolled vertical decent.

Neither of the two above absolve us of good judgment, but each of us are aware that fate does indiscriminately deal us a bad hand from time to time! Why not "Be Prepared"?

Paul R. Meyer, Jr
Northwestern University
Evanston, Ill.

AVweb responds...

While we've seen a fair amount of talk about using differential GPS with wingtip-mounted antennas as an alternate source of attitude information, we're unaware of anyone actually trying to get such a system certified. We would guess the obstacles involved in getting such a non-self-contained system certified as a primary flight instrument might be daunting. It's also not clear, despite the recent Itzhak Jacoby crash, that instrument failure is a major cause of accidents.

The verdict is not yet in on ballistic recovery parachutes. While we can all recite a liturgy of injury and fatal accidents in which such a parachute might have helped, it's by no means clear whether such a system actually would have helped. A major unknown is such scenarios is the pilot's willingness to actually deploy such a parachute in an emergency situation. We suspect that pilots might be very reluctant to do so unless the aircraft has become completely uncontrollable (e.g., catastrophic structural failure). Once again, catastrophic in-flight structural failures represent a very tiny percentage of accidents.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Paul Freedman

16 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

There have been many postings regarding the responsibility the Airlines have for the current problem with delays. The scheduling of so many flights from the hub airports within the same one or two hour morning and evening window is a major contributor to these delays.

Back in the seventies I remember taking the red-eye flights from Newark to San Francisco. I would get into the airport about 3 AM and the place would be bustling. Last month I got in on a delayed flight around 1 AM and the airport was deserted.

Now we know that the airlines love to play pricing games to get, for example, that famous Saturday Night Stay. (I saved over $1,000 on the ticket price for a business trip by leaving Saturday instead of Sunday.) Why can't the airlines reintroduce red-eye fares at substantial discounts with no advance purchase requirements, and possibly throw in some frequent-flyer bonuses for those flights? I am sure a number of travelers would jump at the opportunity.

There would be less traffic on the way to or from the airport. Airlines can save but not having to serve a full meal. The FAA and airport management could arrange reduced landing and gate fees for flights which depart or arrive between 9 PM and 6 AM.

All days are 24 hours long. Why try to squeeze 90% of the flights into 50% of the day?

AVweb responds...

Damn good question, Paul.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Dean Kaupe

16 Dec 1999

Piggyback "Ces-per" Landing

... of course, if a Pietenpol and a Cessna had collided, it would have been a Cess-pol!

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John Pruitt

16 Dec 1999

AVweb's "Aim High" Editorial Policy

Ahhhh, yes. It's the little subtleties I love most about AVweb: using your all-cap lead-ins at the start of each paragraph to help illustrate a point in the story. Like the fifth paragraph in the current AVweb's "Top Headlines...." section in your story on the recent FAA survey:

"...WHILE PLEDGING HENCEFORTH TO ESCHEW OBFUSCATING REGULATIONS."

That is why you used this wording, right? What other contemporary American publication would even consider it? And what a tribute you implicitly pay to the intellectual level of your readers!

Other readers may carp about your wisecracks about N.J. politicians (AVmail), but you're my kinda publication. Keep it up!

AVweb responds...

Thanks, John. AVweb's official style guide, which is laser-etched on stone tablets and serves as the Bible for all of our news writers and editors, has a section titled "Aim High" which tells writers to assume that their audience is both intelligent and aviation-knowledgeable. There's also another style-guide section that says, in essence, "Let's not take ourselves too seriously ... there's no point in doing this unless we and our readers can have some fun in the process."

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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James B. Wood

15 Dec 1999

PIREP Improvement

One of your recent news stories deals with a summit to improve the services of the FSSs. One change which I would think would be inexpensive would be for approach and center controllers to have access into the FSS system and be able to log PIREPS. As a long-time GA flyer, one of the most useful pieces of information I could have is tops reports in the winter. I would be much more likely to take a cross country trip if I knew the clouds were confined to a thousand foot layer than if it was wet clouds up to the flight levels.

Like many others, I have faithfully attempted to give and receive PIREPS in the air, but it is only a matter of sheer luck in getting through to them. If it was quick and easy to report the conditions on climb out or in cruise to the controllers who then quickly entered the data, reports would be much more plentiful.

You may ask, why am I sending this to you? First, I have your email address. Second, the FAA has never asked my opinion on anything, and I wouldn't know how to go about giving it to them. Third, you rub shoulders with the movers and shakers in the aviation industry (being one yourself), and may have the opportunity to pass this along at some point. There, now I feel better, having done my civic duty.

Jim Wood
Dublin, Georgia

AVweb responds...

We agree, Jim, and will make a point of mentioning this to the next mover and/or shaker we run into.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Don Mawhinney

15 Dec 1999

Baron Crash at Teterboro, N.J.

You reported:

"Just like the aftermath of the Jacoby Bonanza crash in Newark, N.J., the day after Thanksgiving, politicians quickly emerged from under their rocks to take cheap shots at GA. New Jersey state Rep. Steve Rothman said, "For an airport such as Teterboro, in the heart of one of the most densely crowded areas in the most densely crowded state ... [to] have so many airplane flights coming in and out is simply wrong and unnecessary.

"Not to be outdone, Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) slithered forth to urge the FAA to conduct an emergency 60-day study of the "dangers of small aircraft flying over densely populated regions." AVweb is optimistic that the FAA will give these suggestions all the attention they are due."

Couldn't agree more. Anything to get the attention of an uninformed public, right? Why don't you rush to the scene of every automobile fatality to rant and rave about too many cars on the road?? Further from AVflash:

"The pilot of the borrowed Baron, Paul A. Pedersen Jr., had his license suspended for 45 days in 1998 because of a fuel starvation accident that occurred in October 1996. It was also revealed that enforcement action by the FAA is being considered for Pedersen in connection with two other events, in April and July of this year, but an FAA spokesman said details of those incidents could not be immediately released."

Maybe if you guys in Congress could unleash the impounded FAA Trust money instead of bottling it up once more for another try at a fee based system, the FAA could make some improvements to the antiquated traffic control systems, and then have some time left over for enforcement measures. Sounds like this guy shouldn't have been a pilot and maybe not even a driver.

Come on Frank. Get Real!!!

Don Mawhinney
Mount Kisco, N.Y.

AVweb responds...

What Don said!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Paul Marks

14 Dec 1999

Cheese-Based Deicing

Do you have a URL or contact phone no. on the cheese-based plane de-icer? Sounds fascinating. Could be cheaper than those hangers equipped with infrared heaters some folks are touting...

Paul Marks
London

AVweb responds...

Paul, this cheese whey to CMA thing is a very new idea. As a commercial product, the "new" CMA may not be readily available for some time.

I called Karen Whitney over at the U.S. Department of Transportation who confirmed that this is a very new technology and still largely a research endeavor -- there are no known commercial producers at this time. Also, to her knowledge, the research has not yet been expanded to include aircraft de-icing ... just surfaces like roads and runways.

More information is available at http://www.dot.gov/affairs/fhwa7699.htm.

I'm sorry we couldn't hand you the silver bullet this time. But do stay tuned...

--Glenn Pew, Newswriter

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Ira Rimson

14 Dec 1999

People, Not Planes, Cause Crashes

In AVflash 5.50a you wrote:

"Airbus said they are not aware of any information suggesting that the plane was at fault."

Come on, AVweb. Surely you should be expected to know better than to try to hold an inanimate object accountable for a mishap. As Captain Dr. Bob Besco has taught generations of commercial pilots and investigators, "Some humans are caused by accident, but ALL accidents are caused by humans."

Especially in the case of Airbus, which represents the penultimate achievement in reducing human crew roles; i.e., giving the autopilot authority to override the flight crew. What that REALLY represents is subordinating the flight crew's judgment to that of the computer programmer. If that's to be the case, let's be honest and dispense with the crew altogether.

But don't perpetuate the fiction that planes can be "at fault" any more than weather, trees, or mountains which leap up and smite airplanes. I guarantee that in my 40+ years of investigation, I have never seen an inanimate object make a decision, good or bad.

AVweb responds...

Fascinating argument, Ira. If planes don't cause accidents, then perhaps we can persuade the FAA to stop issuing all those pesky ADs. What a concept!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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G. Zitpa

14 Dec 1999

Snagged Pilot Now Tangled Up In Court

Concerning your story about Mike Warren, the C-150 pilot who got hung up on a power line at Boeing Field in April 1998, and is now being sued by the City of Seattle for $14,810 to recoup the cost of the damage and the rescue...

Imagine if a cable was stretch across the road..who would be suing whom? Maybe it is time for the pilots to sue the power lines or demand they be marked all across the USA, not just around the airport perimeter as required by law (the very admission that they are dangerous and cannot be seen without being marked).

Adopt a wire!

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Alec Rorabaugh

13 Dec 1999

Baron Crash at Teterboro, N.J.

I want to express my dismay at the following comments in your recent AVflash where you said:

"...politicians quickly emerged from under their rocks to take cheap shots at GA..."

and:

"Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) slithered forth to urge the FAA..."

If you are to represent my views, please keep "our" comments at a higher level, thanks.

AVweb responds...

Alec, we appreciate your comments regarding our weekend coverage and, specifically, our view of Sen. Frank Lautenberg. Since I was the one who inserted those comments into Glenn Pew's write-up of the Baron crash in N.J., I wanted to take a moment to respond.

Certainly, you raise a valid criticism. But, I have watched Lautenberg and his type of politician for far too long to sit idly by and allow him to get away with this kind of blatant opportunism. The reasons for this are many: In his position as senior Democrat on the Senate's Transportation Appropriations Subcommittee, he has routinely sought to divert funding from the FAA to other modes of transportation -- even though all aviation spending comes from a dedicated trust fund -- and he has worked to close GA airports in N.J., even inserting legislative "riders" in an attempt to circumvent FAA rules. He has also supported local and FAA projects which sought to reroute air traffic in the N.Y. metro area without any consideration for the safety impact such changes would bring.

And then, in the aftermath of this crash, he has the temerity to suggest that additional restrictions should be considered, without -- I am certain -- even paying lip service to the grief suffered by the survivors of those who died. Quite simply, the good Senator was only out for himself in this instance and seeking to capitalize on the "scare factor" that was no doubt whipped up by the local media.

Normally, I would subscribe to the maxim that one can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, as you might suggest. In this instance, however, I just can't do that.

I'm sorry if this response seems a bit overwrought -- it's just that Lautenberg's actions in this instance are despicable, are the worst kind of political demagoguery and will do nothing to advance aviation safety. Nothing personal.

--Joseph E. (Jeb) Burnside, Executive Editor

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Bernie Skikavich

13 Dec 1999

Scrubbing Bubbles

The AVflash 5.49a story of the aircraft with jet fuel in the lav instead of lav fluid rings a bell.

About 15 years ago I was working for Nordair, a 737 operator out of Montreal. We received notification that one of our jets was making an emergency landing due to a fuel smell in the aft cabin.

You guessed it, the aft lav was serviced with jet fuel.

The source? Well, when we drain the residual fuel from aircraft tanks prior to purging and tank entry, we would use empty 45 gallon drums, on which we painted "SCRAP FUEL" and left outside the hangar (adjacent to where the Deodar lav fluid drums were). Again you probably guessed it right ... someone forgot to label an empty Deodar drum that was used to drain fuel into, and a ramp person happened to use the first Deodar drum he saw that day to service his lav truck.

My reason for writing ... to point out your story is not the first nor the last time this is going to happen. For those of us in the business, we need reminders through people like yourselves who have an extensive audience that when something like that happens, but for the grace of God, it could be us. We, as aviation professionals, must always be diligent and vigilant in our daily tasks.

Bernie Skikavich
Quality Assurance Manager
ICC Canada Ltd. (CIC)

AVweb responds...

Interesting story, Bernie. Our first reaction to the story was, "how in heck could something like that ever happen?" Your tale makes it a lot easier to understand. Thanks for sharing it.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Scott Blasken

13 Dec 1999

A Canadian View on Y2K

I doubt if things are that different in Canada and the U.S. when it comes to the state of Y2K readiness, but I find Jane Garvey's (and others) tour during UTC Y2K roll not overly impressive.

The supplement mailed out by NavCanada dealing with the Y2K rollover operations makes no mention anywhere about the concern for UTC time. All operational concerns expressed are in regards to local midnight times.

My take on this is there is more concern about the local support systems of power and communications than there is about ATC equipment. So if Garvey really wanted to make a positive impression, maybe they should be flying at both times. I'd love to see Jane do a tour through New York's airspace at midnight UTC and again at midnight local time.

The rebuttal that there is nothing she could do to ensure all the utilities are Y2K compliant doesn't do a lot of good for the passengers that may be stuck up there in the off chance that, at midnight local time, the ATC system craters due to outside influences.

I enjoy your flashes and articles and the sometimes satirical manner in which they are presented. You also have one vote from me to continue the April Fools edition.

AVweb responds...

We'll use our influence to try to ensure that SFO fogs in on New Year's Eve and that Mrs. Garvey's flight winds up holding until after midnight PST.

Rest assured there will be an April Fools issue, but let's try to keep it our little secret so it comes as a surprise to AVweb's other 119,999 readers. Thanks in advance for your silence.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Richard Sinnott

13 Dec 1999

Baron Crash at Teterboro, N.J.

The Baron crash in New Jersey is a tragedy indeed. However, the language used in the AVflash story regarding the previous and pending certificate actions against the pilot seems to be laying the predicate for a casual acceptance of such certificate actions. Let us not forget Bob Hoover's story, and I'm sure you are not.

The number of Emergency Revocations and probably every other type of certificate action has risen almost exponentially in recent years. I have two friends who have been victims of such unjust actions on the part of the FAA. Perhaps both merited a "letter in their personnel file," but neither required a revocation.

The government's actions must be questioned at every turn, especially these days.

AVweb responds...

Richard, your points are well-taken. Thanks for writing.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Greg Shank

13 Dec 1999

NASA and Y2K

Despite all the reassurances from the Feds that everybody is now Y2K ready and there is nothing to worry about, I heard on NPR last week that NASA is unwilling to have a space shuttle in orbit over New Year's Eve because of Y2K worries. Are they talking out of both sides of their mouth again?

AVweb responds...

Greg, you are right. If NASA can't get the shuttle off by Dec. 18th, it will be delayed until mid-January in order to avoid a landing at the year's end. They are being super-cautious about hidden bugs in their ops programs, mostly at Kennedy.

--Kim Broadwell, News Writer

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Bob Saling

13 Dec 1999

Last Boeing Classic 737

I am the Boeing communications manager responsible for last week's rollout of the Last Classic 737 airplane. I was forwarded a copy of the story from the Dec. 12 edition of AVflash, which included a story about the rollout. We appreciate your coverage of our event, although I must point out some inaccuracies contained in the story:

  • It is true that the "737 in all of its variant has accumulated a total of 4,300 orders." However, this is a record for any jet airplane maker, not just Boeing.
     
  • We appreciate your mention of the Next-Generation 737 family, however the 737-900 is not the Boeing Business Jet. The 737-900 is the largest version of the Next-Generation 737 family and still in development. The Boeing Business Jet is based on a 737-700 fuselage, coupled with the wing and landing gear designed for the 737-800. In addition, the BBJ 2 was launched in October, based on the larger 737-800 fuselage.

Thanks.

Bob Saling
Manager, Classic 737 Communications
Single Aisle Airplane Programs
Boeing Commercial Airplanes Group

AVweb responds...

We appreciate you setting us straight on this, Bob. Several of our more Boeing-savvy readers wrote in to point out the same thing.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jean Thresher

14 Dec 1999

ReliefBand for Motion Sickness

I have waited a long time to send this note about the ReliefBand I saw reviewed on AVweb because I just couldn't believe the results and wanted to test it again.

SIMPLY PUT ... IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!

I have been getting sick on airplanes for many years, and even though I love to fly, I dreaded the thought of getting on a plane because I knew what the results would be. I felt bad for the people next to me as I would start to vomit as soon as the plane took off and wouldn't stop until it landed. Even after landing the feeling of being ill would sometimes last for hours and hours.

I tried everything I could think of. Dramimine would stop the vomiting but do nothing for the dizzy faint feeling. The scop patch prescribed by my doctor made me feel high and I couldn't drive after landing.

I had pretty much given up on flying when my husband realized a lifelong dream and got his private pilots license. I went up flying with him shortly after he received his license, thinking maybe a small plane won't be so bad. Let's just say it was a very short flight.

I had to find a solution.

It was then that we saw the article about the ReliefBand. I had tried everything else, so I figured why not give it a try? The results were amazing, I figured it would take care of the vomiting, but what surprised me is it relieved all my symptoms including the fuzzy, dizzy, passing-out feeling.

I can now enjoy flying with my husband, and I tell everyone I see at the FBO about this amazing product. My only mistake is getting the disposable model without replaceable batteries, an error I plan to correct in the near future.

Thank you!

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the feedback, Jean. It's great to hear the ReliefBand worked so well for you. Approximately 70% of those who've tried the product report that it provides complete and almost immediate relief from motion sickness symptoms. The remaining 30% report only partial relief or, in some cases, no relief at all. Nothing in medicine is 100% effective for 100% of the patients, but it does seem clear that the ReliefBand offers the most predictable and reliable relief from motion sickness of anything I've seen to date.

--Brent Blue M.D., Aviation Medicine Editor

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Anonymous

11 Dec 1999

Mars Polar Lander

SECRET
EYES ONLY
DO NOT DUPLICATE

Martian-Engl translation on.....
....message rec/d 99.6.12 01:32 .....
...server don.exd.orion.jpl.nasa.gov.......
.233/33389...ixop.ls2987.ascii on...no metric...
...Message as follows:

YOU EARTHLINGS DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?
WE DON'T LIKE YOU, AND DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP HERE.
LEAVE US ALONE OR WE'LL SEND ANOTHER GATES ANDROID.

....end of transmission.....
...exd.orion.jpl.nasa.gov off

DESTROY AFTER READING
CIRCULATE USUAL COVER-UP STORY

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Jennifer K. Wood

11 Dec 1999

War On Drugs = War On Aviation Employees?

I was shocked to read in AVflash (09-Dec-99) that a Delta flight attendant was fired for a negative drug test. Some nitwit thought she drank "too much" water in a effort to conceal supposed drug use.

As a professional pilot myself, this news scares me to death, as it should anybody else subject to random drug testing that, if positive (or now apparently even negative) will bar the accused from working in aviation for life. I have never seen any factual evidence presented by the drug warriors that there has ever been ANY drug abuse safety problem in this industry to warrant this growing assault on the hardworking, conscientious professionals in this business. I have always regretted the billions of dollars wasted on drug testing as a tragic diversion of monies far better spent on real safety problems, but this Delta case crosses the line into true insanity.

If this stands, NONE of us is safe. To paraphrase the German priest who famously regretted not speaking out against the nazi Holocaust until he got dragged away, "First they came for the flight attendant, but I wasn't a flight attendant, so I didn't say anything...."

Robert Steffes
ATP, Captain C414

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Merle Martin

11 Dec 1999

Airport Compliance Requirements

With regard to General Aviation infrastructure, most federally-funded international airports fail to improve GA facilities, in violation of federal compliance agreements and to the detriment of general aviation. FAA policy of the community involvement in airport development has been ignored by most airports. These failures of enforcement of the federal compliance agreements regarding general aviation need to be made public.

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Warren Anderson

11 Dec 1999

Garmin GPS Database Lacks AWOS/ASOS Frequencies

I've e-mailed Garmin, Dick Collins (who complained about this issue in FLYING recently), and trekked all over AirVenture in search of an answer without success and now turn to you, the deity of aviation knowledge.

I find the airport AWOS/ASOS frequency deficiency in my GNC 250XL to be occasionally more than a nuisance, and note that it carries on a shortfall also found in my GPS 90. This is particularly frustrating because the older King 135A in my previous airplane DID have AWOS/ASOS freqs on the airport information pages.

Automated weather reporting assists the VFR pilot by updating altimeter settings en route, keeping track of surface winds in the event of an emergency landing, checking ceiling and visibility for airports ahead and possible diverts should weather deteriorate, and determining favored runway for planning pattern arrival. On cross-countries I check the weather at every airport I pass and then return to monitoring Flight Watch; since many ASOS/AWOS stations report locally only, their information cannot be obtained any other way. With my 135A I simply scanned the frequencies of nearest airports to find a weather station but the GNC 250XL requires that I finger the chart. Of course I always have a current chart unfolded and ready but the frequency database and auto-channelization function were intended to make life in the cockpit easier!

I asked the Jeppesen folks at AirVenture this summer why they did not include automated weather frequencies in the Garmin NavData cards and was told that they included every possible bit of data there is on a master tape supplied to Garmin. The choice of what to include in any particular unit's database was up to Garmin. Walking over to the Garmin display, I asked several representatives there what was up. They offered no answer but said it was certainly not an issue of data card capacity since there is room to spare. At their suggestion I have written the aviation product manager at Garmin but to date have not received a reply.

I wonder if you can shed any light or influence on this curious deficiency. Garmin units are superbly engineered and function reliably. I can only speculate the omission of relevant frequencies from airport data pages was the result of an unenlightened marketing decision by non-pilots. It would seem a simple fix to add the frequencies to the NavCard and ported database updates.

Warren Anderson, M.D.
Bethesda, Md.
Extra 200 N516HT

AVweb responds...

Warren, let's hope someone from Garmin reads this.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Barry Robinson

10 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

Another favorite American Airline game at Dallas is to tell passengers with gate complaints regarding equipment delays, last minute gate changes (after the 1 1/4-mile walk to your connecting flight) and other assorted gripes that it is due to decisions made in the control tower. After calling the bluff of one gate attendant by telling her I called the tower and they knew nothing about it, she admitted "the tower" is their name for AA dispatch.

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Scott Dunham

9 Dec 1999

FDRs and CVRs

Concerning George Jones' suggestion about datalinking FDR and CVR type data to the ground [AVmail, 06-Dec-99]:

Satcom requires some moderately tricky antenna aiming, unless you're planning on this being the killer app the brings Iridium back from the dead. If you batch up the data and burst it out of the plane periodically, the data that makes it out will probably be of low interest, and the stuff that hasn't been sent yet might not ever make it if the plane starts doing whifferdills. Continuous high-data-rate satcom would be pretty challenging and certainly not cheap, especially from fast-moving objects. Ground-based receivers have the usual coverage problems (and what do you do over the ocean?)

It could probably be done somehow, but it's far from a slam-dunk...

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Robert Staib

10 Dec 1999

VFR Gate Holds at TEB

In response to AVweb's reports on airline delays, I have found one airport that leaves General Aviation aircraft waiting. In Teterboro, New Jersey, on the night of 12-9-99 we landed our Citation 550 on one of two flights into Teterboro. This first trip was done VFR to Teterboro on a beautiful clear VFR night, with light winds with unrestricted visibility. The ATIS stated that there were gate holds in progress. We received our clearance and got on the gate hold list for engine start and were told to expect a 30 minute delay. After 30 minutes, we called back to be told 30 to 40 more minutes. After the next 30 minutes. we called back to be told that our IFR flight plan was timing out and to call FSS to change the P-time, which we did. About 10 minutes later we were told to start our engines and about 15 minutes later we were airborne.

On our second trip in (which we hated to do because of the first trip), we landed VFR again, but there were no gate holds this time, only about a hour and a half later. We asked the ground controller how ATC could stop VFR traffic from departing into VFR conditions and remaining outside the Class B airspace. He answered that his supervisor made a rule that all aircraft are equal with gate holds to be fair to all aircraft. He also stated that the delays were not because of volume of traffic, but because that taxiways were full or blocked. He told us that there was a problem with the system, and if we wanted to discuss it he would meet us after work and talk about it. We replied that if ATC would allow aircraft to depart VFR, most would.

This is a big problem at Teterboro, were this supervisor delayed many aircraft unnecessarily on a VFR night, and the problem could only get worse on IFR days. This was the night the Baron crashed at Teterboro, killing three. I could imagine this causing delays, but the gate holds started before the crash (and could even have contributed to the crash).

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Name Withheld

10 Dec 1999

Busted For Mode C Error

Waco (Texas) TRACON is reporting minor discrepancies in reported altitude and Mode C data from transponder encoder to Fort Worth FSDO, who is sending out notices. Waco Approach has done this in the past, even with VFR traffic that report as a matter of courtesy, even though Waco is not Class B airspace so no courtesy call is required. I wish to remain anonymous.

AVweb responds...

Dear Anonymous, if it's any consolation, I got bitten by the same thing a year or so ago in Tucson, Ariz. Ironically, I discovered my altitude-reporting discrepancy via my panel-mounted Mode C monitor, reported it to ATC at Tucson TRACON, and asked if I could stop altitude squawk until I could resolve the problem, which ATC approved. I subsequently did resolve the problem (by pulling a breaker for a few minutes to allow my severely-overheated encoder to cool down), and resumed altitude squawk not long afterwards, after asking for and receiving permission from ATC.

A month later, I got a nasty letter from the Scottsdale FSDO demanding that I ground my airplane until its transponder and encoder were recertified. Given that I reported the problem to ATC (rather than the other way around), I was not a happy camper when I got the FSDO's nastygram. When I investigated further, however, I learned (to my surprise) that all ATC facilities are procedurally REQUIRED to report all Mode C discrepancies to the FSDO (although clearly some facilities take this mandate a lot more seriously than others). Apparently this procedure was added to the ATC manual back when TCAS was introduced, the justification being that erroneous Mode C data can result in bogus TCAS resolution advisories.

I guess 1984 just came a bit late this millenium.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Gary Collins

10 Dec 1999

AIM CO detector

I have used the AIM CO detector for about a year in my Cessna 170. It provides information about one of the hidden dangers of flying light planes and I am continually amazed at what it reports. For instance, if I taxi with the left door window open the CO level will go up to about 10 ppm but it stays at zero if I open the right window.

My question is this. If the plane is parked outside on hot summer days without a window cover, the AIM will show a CO reading. It slowly goes up to about 30 ppm. It will come down slowly with the doors open and rapidly goes to zero in flight. What is happening? I doubt this is a valid reading. This usually happens at flyins when I am carrying TCP fuel additive in the baggage compartment. It appears to be a closed container but it may not be vapor-tight.

AVweb responds...

Gary, it's possible that the electrochemical CO sensor in the AIM detector has cross-sensitivity to some aromatic in the fuel additive. I have not heard of this happening before, but it's theoretically quite possible.

Incidentally, keeping the CO detector in a hot cabin (e.g., parked in the sun without window covers) will shorten the life of the sensor (not to mention your avionics and upholstery). Sensor life is limited by the evaporation of the electrolyte in the sensor, and that is accelerated by high heat and low humidity. This is not unique to the AIM detector -- it's true of any electrochemical gas sensor, and the electrochemical sensors are the only ones that are decently accurate and reliable.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Steve Willey

9 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

Your item about United Airlines chief James Goodwin said air traffic worldwide has reached near-crisis levels.

This is not the fault of ATC or lack of runway space at all. It's the fault of Y6B -- the fact that the world population has reached 6 billion, up from 5 billion in 1990. Scary rate of increase these last 100 years. You can increase the efficiency of ATC, add a few runways, but if we expect to have population double again in 30- 50 years, we will be still worse off with all forms of transportation. The answer to this problem, as well as water and waste and clean air and forest over-cutting, is population stability. We can't just keep widening the roads and adding flight schedules indefinitely, can we?

AVweb responds...

"Y6B" has a nice ring to it, Steve!.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Michael Hudgins

09 Dec 1999

Pilot Out To Lunch

That Note about the NW pilot getting fired for taking a food break reminds me of one (300 lb?) captain we called Pizza Man at (Nameless Airline). We were doing MAC charters, Philidelphia down to Norfolk and back before going to Europe. He figured that under our pilot contract, it would be too long before he got served a meal over the Atlantic. So on the way back up to PHL from Norfolk, he called the company and told the station manager to order him a pizza, and deliver it to the airplane when they blocked in. The dispatcher was a fiery little redheaded Irishwoman who wasn't having any of it.

Upon arrival, no pizza. The captain therefore refused to move the airplane until he got food. This at a time when NamelessAL was in big danger of losing its MAC contract and thus of going out of business completely; MAC's big problem was that we were not meeting their on-time requirement (within 15 minutes).

The copilot finally got the captain a burger, I think, and off we went. NamelessAL fired the captain and deadheaded him back from Italy (and sent another captain). But the company didn't follow union procedures about having an interview with union rep present, etc., etc., so they had to not only take the pilot back but also pay him for the trip he missed! Nothing like getting five days paid vacation for almost sinking the company. Only at Nameless.

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Ken Mackin

9 Dec 1999

Unlocking The Aviation Trust Fund

AVweb's story on the United Airlines chief talking about the future of commercial aviation and the complaints about the ATC system, runway space and terminals, has a familiar ring. What is amazing to me, is that the aviation industry seems incapable of getting access to the tax fund that was set up to pay for all this extra new stuff. The so-called "aviation trust fund" is flush with BILLIONS of dollars that were intended to fund improvements in the airspace system. Why can't these execs get their act together and organize to put this issue on the American agenda?

My suggestion: Create a notice that gets put on every ticket, brochure, in-flight magazine, etc. This notice would talk about the tax that every flyer pays for the privilege of air travel. The note could mention that congress has been ripping off every air traveler every time they fly. The notice could suggest calling or writing your congressman, or better yet, filling out the "blow-in card" in your in-flight magazine and hand it to the flight attendant on the way off the airplane. Create a public web site that can educate people about the issue (and provide a point solution for congressional staffs to see the handwriting on the wall).

Once people are educated at get fighting mad (as they should be), and once our congressional "leaders" start hearing about it (coupled with a nice PR campaign), we will finally get to spend the money we have been collected for years.

Organize and play to win.

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Miles van der Molen

9 Dec 1999

South African Chieftain Crash

Just a short note to thank AVweb for the dignified manner and factual correctness of your coverage of the Piper Chieftain accident that claimed 10 lives. We owned and operated the Chieftain and are obviously very distraught over the tragedy.

Here particularly we suffer terribly from bad media coverage of aviation in general and particularly of accidents. Reporters took such liberties as changing airports, aircraft, number of passengers, even reporting that the "Black Box" had been recovered. Emotive language used to raise the horror of the situation adds only to the immense pain being suffered by the families and of course ourselves. All these things remind me why I avoid these pitiful creations. Reports are based purely on speculation and no attempt is made to ensure even the lowest level of factual correctness.

We have operated several Chieftains for years and have found them to be amazing aircraft. It is terrible to see the good name of an aircraft I love and respect to be dragged through the mud mercilessly to sell one more cruddy newspaper.

Thank you for your contribution to aviation.

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Alfred Poor

9 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I've been thinking about the current delays (and circular finger pointing that it generates), and I came up with a possible solution -- though I expect others have thought of it before.

The airlines say that everyone wants to leave at the same time, so they all book the same departure times, and that's what leads to the delays at the airport. Well, what if we continue to let airlines pick their departure (and arrival) times? If there are dozens of other flights at the same time, you get in line, just as you do now. The difference would be that if you pick a later time, and those with earlier times are still queued up when it's your time to go, you get to go to the head of the line at your appointed time. (Same thing for arrivals.)

This would reward airlines for choosing realistic schedules, and would lead to a sort of auction for the earliest departure slot that won't get delayed. I suspect that this might thin out the traffic jams on the taxiways.

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Geoffrey Davis

7 Dec 1999

Mars Polar Lander

We all know the real reason that the Mars Polar Lander is not returning any signals:

Upon landing on the surface of Mars, the lander was stolen by one of the locals and is being disassembled and sold for parts at the local flea market. Note that there are no FAA Form 8130s provided.

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Chan Lofland

09 Dec 1999

Multi-Engine Solo Endorsement?

This is a new one on me. A local fellow with a commercial rating (single engine land) just bought a twin. He went to Florida to pick it up and while there got an instructor to give him a log book endorsement to allow him to act as PIC while solo. Now the fellow is flying every day to get the required hours he needs and also trying to find an instructor to give him the "ready for test endorsement." Anyone else ever heard of this? When I got my multi, I never heard of such a solo endorsement, and can't find anything about it in the regs.

AVweb responds...

It's absolutely legal. A CFIME can endorse even a student pilot for solo and for solo cross-country in a multiengine airplane. (Think about it: How else could someone earn their MEL private pilot certificate without first earning a SEL private pilot certificate?)

If anything is unusual about this, it's that the pilot's insurance company would cover him without a multi rating and some minimum time-in-type (e.g., 25 or 50 hours). My guess is that he's flying uninsured.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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A. Ray Peach

08 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I've read several articles about how ATC is being blamed for everything bad that happens, as well as articles about funding problems in congress. I think its time for the GA community (and ATC) to consider the possibility that a political campaign is being waged to privatize the airways. By pulling the funds and then blaming all problems on ATC and GA, the public will be pressured into thinking that the current system is broken beyond repair.

Normally I don't believe in conspiracies, mostly because human beings aren't that smart. However, this does remind me of the successful conspiracy by General Motors, Standard Oil, and others to privatize and then destroy the "Red Line" public transportation system in Los Angeles many years ago.

I think we need to start fighting back by educating the public, and forcing Congress to live by its own laws, before we find that the sky is owned by Airline Inc.

AVweb responds...

Interesting angle, Ray. You're obviously a devious thinker, and I like that in a person.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Donald L. Mullen

06 Dec 1999

Overcoming P-Factor

I Read with interest Mike Busch's article on disposable urinals and wanted to pass along another solution to this in-flight problem. After many years of flying with some trying bladder experiences I slowly came to the realization that if I ate something during the flight, (the sooner the better) I could fly further. Since starting this practice many years ago it has worked 100% of the times for myself and passengers, that I shared this information with. I use this method with any flights that are expected to encroach on the time probability of a bladder problem. For me this could be as little as 1 hour. Typically, my normal routine, when departing my home base in the Los Angeles basin, is to wait until we are up over the surrounding mountains, at cruise altitude, flight plan opened, and clear of the congested airspace (maybe 15 minutes). Then I break out the munches that consist of some combination of: crackers and cheese, cookies and yes peanuts, etc. It doesn't seem to require a significant quantity of food, just small amounts nibbled on slowly over time. The passengers are always delighted as if they had received an unexpected gift. Sometimes, someone will ask about the drinks which I explain that there isn't any because of the lack of toilet facilities in the plane. Sometimes though I tell them that I have drinks for the last 1/2 hour of the flight. I never get any complaints and very rarely does anyone think of the drinks by the end of the trip. This indicates to me that there is not a significant problem with dehydration. The way it appears to work is that the body seems to stop producing urine when receiving dry food so that it will have the water necessary to digest the food. With this method I have made many flights exceeding 3 or 4 hours. And yes, I had to go when I arrived, but there has never been a desperate situation. The thing I find surprising about this is that I have not seen anything written about it. And I believe a major portion of the flying public could make use of this physiological phenomenon. One more thing (that is just plain common sense), is to avoid significant amounts of liquids or coffee before a long flight.

AVweb responds...

My own opinion is that dehydration in flight is a big problem (especially in high-altitude flight, and/or when using supplemental oxygen), and that regular liquid intake during flight is essential. Coffee and other caffeine-bearing beverages are a big no-no, however, because of their diuretic effect.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Tom McCarthy

6 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I'm an air traffic controller and learned while riding jumpseat on a Continental flight how we sometimes get undue credit for delays. As our scheduled departure time came and went and we still sat at the gate, we got a call from dispatch that there had been a problem with the baggage which would add another 20 minutes to our pushback. The captain made a PA announcement right in front of me, apologizing to the passengers for the "ATC" delay. Seeing the stunned look on my face, he calmly said, "You don't think we're going to take the rap, do you, when we can use you guys as scapegoats?"

Please, folks, we justly receive 100% of the credit for our delays ... we don't want or need the blame for yours!

AVweb responds...

Perhaps NATCA should lobby for equal time on the cabin PA system.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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George Jones

06 Dec 1999

FDRs and CVRs

I have wondered, every time there is a crash with recorders aboard, why a more reliable means of storing the data has not been utilized to eliminate the need for searching for, and having to reconstruct damaged recorders when found. Why can't the data in digital form be continuously collected in the aircraft and transmitted via satellite to a ground computer for storage. The technology seems to be available now, as phone calls are routinely made from air craft, and space craft have been transmitting data to computers for 30+ years. The data could be sent to the airlines,or to a central government computer. I'm sure many others have thought of this idea, but I have never seen it discussed. Could AVweb comment on this idea sometime?

AVweb responds...

Thanks for your input on continuously transmitting digital data of aircraft flight parameters to aid in accident investigation. AVweb reported earlier this year about an International Symposium On Transportation Recorders sponsored by the NTSB in May 1999. One of the sessions at this symposium covered future data recording requirements, and I believe telemetering of data was covered during this session. It is certainly an intriguing idea, and one worthy of further study in my opinion. Though technically feasible, much work would need to be done on secure data links, ground support stations, etc. to make it a reality.

You can go to http://www.ntsb.gov/events/symp_rec/symp_rec.htm to find out more about the subjects covered at the symposium.

--Peter Yost, News Editor

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Karin Cozzolino

6 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I've been following the news regarding the Itzhak Jacoby crash and Newark's lawsuit against the Jacoby estate, and it's given me a lot to chew on. I'm a relatively new pilot, having passed my checkride in June; and the prospect of my family facing a similar situation should I be involved in an accident is terrifying.

Unfortunately, I think that lawsuits of this sort are going to become more common. Why? Because in any situation where a general aviation aircraft causes damage to property outside the airport or injury to anyone on the ground outside the airport, the most politically viable thing a politician can do if he wants to remain in office is to launch an attack on general aviation, including a lawsuit against the accident pilot's estate to recover costs.

I agree wholeheartedly with the AVweb staff's position that the Newark lawsuit against the Jacoby estate is political in origin, cold-hearted and unfeeling with regards to the Jacoby family, and premature in terms of not waiting until a thorough investigation comes up with a probable cause. It's deplorable, despicable, and disgusting. And I'll bet we'll see a lot more like it in the future.

The mayor of Newark, like every politician, has as his top priority staying in elected office and, if possible, furthering his political career by getting elected to higher offices. Most of his constituency, like that of any office-holder, is made up of people who are at best indifferent and at worst hostile to general aviation operations. If Mayor James took a public stand that the accident was really terrible but there was nothing he could do or would do to recover costs or safeguard the non-flying public from further accidents, how long do you think it would be before some other Mayor-wannabe crucified him for his failure to act in the best interests of his constituency?

I'm not defending Mayor James. I wonder if he would have the guts to personally serve his city's lawsuit on the grieving survivors of the Jacoby family. But the facts are that we in general aviation are a minority in any politician's constituency, and a minority that is perceived by the majority as being financially privileged. The flight activities we engage in are considered by most non-fliers as dangerous. So when a general aviation aircraft gets in an accident that damages non-fliers' property or injures or kills non-fliers, who is the politician going to side with, right or wrong, if he wants to stay in office? And if the politician can advance his career more easily by acting against general aviation interests instead of for them, what do you think he?s going to do?

I?m afraid that the lawsuit filed against the Jacoby estate by the city of Newark is just the start of things to come. I'm also afraid that accidents of this sort make it easier for civic authorities to impose more restrictions on general aviation flight operations over and within their boundaries. At the very least, I wouldn't be surprised to see cities requiring aircraft owners who operate out of municipal airports to carry insurance coverage that many of us would have trouble affording.

I think this accident had better serve as a wake-up call to all of us who enjoy flying to "get political" and do what's necessary to preserve the rights and privileges we have.

AVweb responds...

Well said, Karin. Regrettably, I agree with your assessment.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Todd Insler

06 Dec 1999

Deakin's VNAV Column

Who is the inexperienced fool who thinks VNAV approaches are a BAD idea??

VNAV Approaches are both more efficient, and SAFER than traditional non precision approaches. There is a reason the major airlines are switching to a true RNAV environment. I fly VNAV 15 days a month. It is fantastic. I suggest you do more research.

AVweb responds...

Todd, you'll find the bio of John Deakin who wrote the VNAV column below. I'd hardly call John "inexperienced" (!) but I'm sure he'd welcome the opportunity to discuss your comments. There's a handy form at the end of the article to do just that.

John Deakin is a 34,000-hour pilot who worked his way up the aviation food chain via charter, corporate, and cargo flying; spent five years in Southeast Asia with Air America; and joined Japan Airlines 31 years ago, where he is a 747 captain ... oops, we mean copilot. He also flies his own V35 Bonanza (N1BE) and is very active in the warbird and vintage aircraft scene, serving as an instructor in several aircraft and as an FAA Examiner on the Curtiss-Wright C-46, DC-3, Martin 404, and Lockheed EC-121 Constellation.

Thanks for writing, and for reading AVweb.

--Jennifer D. Whitley, Research and Copy Editor

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M. Linder

06 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I worked for an airline for about a year and was not surprised when I read your story about the delay of an American Airlines departure out of Amarillo due to zero-zero fog being characterized by the airline as an "ATC delay."

Often, delays are caused by many factors, including weather in some other part of the country that caused the delay much earlier in the day. Many gate and ticket agents don't know why the delay is occurring and may not have accurate access to that information. We often called the gate of the airport our flight was arriving from because there was nothing in the computer. That kind of direct communication isn't possible in a large airport.

I'm not justifying this in any way, but having dealt with angry passengers I can tell you that they are much more satisfied knowing that the delay is caused by a person or a system(which they can direct their anger towards) rather than the weather, which is out of their control. And I believe most passengers' anger stems from their complete lack of control over the situation. They are at the mercy of the airline or the ticket or gate agent. If you make the ticket agent mad, he can ensure that your bags will not arrive with you. All he has to do is tag it incorrectly.

All that to say, it's not right, but it's not surprising, due to misinformation and the loveliness of dealing with pax.

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Glen Geller

06 Dec 1999

Scrubbing Bubbles

Regarding your story about jet fuel accidentally being pumped into an airliner lav, instead of the normal "blue stuff"...

This must be the real reason you are forbidden to smoke in the lavatory!

AVweb responds...

(Smack!) Why didn't WE think of that!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Greg Martin

6 Dec 1999

Handheld GPS Aboard Airliner?

I was recently on a TWA MD-80 from STL to MIA. The aircraft was delayed an hour while we were all on board due to a failure in both lavatories. I spent about 45 minutes talking with the FO during the delay. Once we were ready to depart, I decided to use my Garmin 195 to track the flight. About an hour after departure the head FA came by and asked if I was using a Game Boy....

I politely explained that this was an aviation GPS. The FA was insistent that I turn off the 195 because it "may interfere with the navigation equipment on board the aircraft."

I tried to tell her that the FO had one in the cockpit! This was to no avail. So I had to turn off the 195.

I thought you would find this humorous...

AVweb responds...

Actually, Greg, the FA was absolutely right. We've seen repeated cases of some handheld GPS receivers (not necessarily the Garmin 195) interfering with panel-mount avionics.

Also, very few airline aircraft have any kind of GPS in the cockpit, handheld or panel-mount.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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John C. Miller

06 Dec 1999

The Airline Delay Blame Game

I'm writing after reading in Vol. 5, Issue 49a about ATC being unjustly blamed for delays. I've found that the tendency to blame ATC for all manner of travel ills is common.

I recently experienced a cancelled United flight from ONT to SFO. When I asked the United rep why the flight was cancelled, she replied "Air Traffic Control cancelled the flight." Knowing that ATC does not cancel flights, I inquired further. I was told that "there were too many planes in the air, and ATC had cancelled the flight." (Weather was clear at both SFO and ONT) The next flight to SFO 2 hours later just happened to have enough additional capacity for the passengers of the cancelled flight, which suggested exactly why the flight was cancelled: $$$.

I travel on commercial flights weekly, and I regularly hear ATC being blamed for delays when I know that ATC is only peripherally (if at all) involved. As a general aviation pilot, I have tremendous respect and appreciation for the job that ATC does; I'm disturbed that ATC ends up as the scapegoat for all manner of air travel problems.

AVweb responds...

John, thanks for your input. It seems we are hearing more and more tales like yours of the airlines using ATC as an excuse for all sorts of commercial air travel problems. I wonder if many of the gate agents or ticket reps for the airlines really understand what is the actual cause of the flight delay. I have a feeling many just reply "ATC problems" as a quick answer when faced with a line of frustrated, angry passengers.

--Peter W. Yost, News Editor

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Mikki Barry

6 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I knew Dr. Jacoby. He, his wife and daughter took off from Gaithersburg just ahead of us on Wednesday before thanksgiving, going to Linden. This nonsense about "we had to sue" is insulting and ridiculous. The lawsuit was filed before the victims were even buried. Consider that even the FAA decided not to bother the one surviving daughter until she had time to grieve her tremendous loss. Newark's actions are even more outrageous considering the millions of dollars worth of state and federal funds expended on search and recovery of EgyptAir, JFK Jr., etc. Just when you think that humans can't stoop any lower, you see how wrong you can be.

The city of Newark itself had no personal injury and no property damage. The city of Newark had people on salary whose job it was to deal with accidents of this type. The claim that they are "forced" to sue is an insulting to our intelligence as it is greedy. It certainly makes one think twice before declaring an emergency, or gods forbid having a traffic accident in Newark, given that you might be charged for services generally given for free in this country.

I hope that AVweb publishes the pleadings in this ridiculous lawsuit.

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Felix Gadow

06 Dec 1999

Whose Wrights?

You might be interested in publishing a little comment from a guy "trapped" in the "old world".

Thanks for your very interesting mails every week. (I wish we had something similar in Germany.) Please keep up the good work! I always learn a lot and sometimes smile a lot as well. So I did when I read the article concerning the license plates and who can claim the first flight stuff.

I always smile a bit when I read or hear about so many claims you Americans make. It is either the greatest, the tallest, the biggest, the first, you name it. And it has to be "... of the world," of course. So, here are two states of the U.S. which seam to have a "real problem." But what I felt, besides the amusement when reading it was that it shows the dedication and loyalty you guys have for your country as well as how proud you must be to be an American. And I admire you for that. I wished we, the Germans, had a reason to be like that. But well, at least when it comes to aviation, we might have one.

If there would be a contest about who can claim to be the "Birthplace of Aviation," and the claim to be the location of "First in Flight," one would be forced to say: "...and the winner is ... "Rhinow!"

"Where in heck is Rhinow?" you might ask. Rhinow is a village near Berlin in Germany. There was a guy called Otto Lilienthal who developed the theoretical basis of flight in vehicles heavier than air. He published his theories back in 1989 in a book ("Der Vogelflug als Grundlage der Fliegekunst" loosely translated as "The flight of the birds as a basis for the art of flying") which was used by the Wright Brothers as a guide to develop their "Flyer I." Lilienthal was also the first to "glide" his "Eindecker-Gleitflugzeug" from a hill near Rhinow and covered distances between 300 and 760 feet. He crashed and subsequently died on the 9th of August 1896. His last words were: "Sacrifices have to be made," and his published philosophy was "To invent a flying machine means nothing, to build one not very much, to fly one means everything". A quite remarkable "fella," wasn't he?

Oh yeah, by the way: Have you ever heard about a guy who emigrated from Germany to the U.S. (Pittsburgh, Pa.) by the name of Gustav Weisskopf who later called himself Gustav Whitehead? He used to be a coworker of Lilienthal. He constructed and built an airplane powered by a steam engine which he crashed into a house while he was trying to fly it, and he was consequently ordered by the police to leave town. In 1900 he moved with his family from Pittsburgh to Bridgeport, Conn., where he reportedly performed the first powered flight in the morning of the 14th of August in 1901. About two years before the Wright Brothers! So, do the honors might have to go to Connecticut, after all?

Felix Gadow
Landsberied, Germany

AVweb responds...

Felix, the Wright Brothers, like all good scientists, got where they were going by "standing on the shoulders" of other giants. The Wright's get the credit they do because they continued to commercialize and develop their invention. Alas, poor Gustav. Similarly, Columbus gets the credit for discovering the 'New World' despite the Norse settlement in Newfoundland circa 1000 A.D. And who knows where Otto would have gone if he hadn't been killed? I wish I could recall clearly, but I think there was a U.S.commemorative postal stamp featuring Lilenthal. If there wasn't, there should have been!

Entschuldigen Sie, aber ich habe alle meine deutsche vergessen. Bitte für AVweb lesen!

-- D. K. (Kim) Broadwell, Newswriter

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Mark Hutchin

06 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

If the Jacobys had blown a tire on their minivan and caused a lot of damage, or if they had crashed into my house, I would imagine their insurance and not the local taxpayers would be responsible. I don't think the fact they were in an airplane makes a difference. I certainly have great sympathy for the very difficult situation Mr. Jacoby found himself in and I know he must have regretted not having 1,000 feet of clear underneath to recover to wings level. I also know they will be sorely missed, they were from a neighbor airport.

I don't mean to cast blame. He was legal. He is also responsible. Sadly, he had no out. I don't know many pilots who could have coped with that situation, and none of my senior airline pilot friends fly single-pilot IFR.

AVweb responds...

If the Jacobys had blown a tire on their minivan and crashed into your house, perhaps your insurance company would have subrogated against Jacoby's insurance company. But it's beyond imagination that the city would have filed a suit. (Perhaps I should rephrase that ... nothing is beyond imagination these days.)

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Wendell Bailey

6 Dec 1999

Italian Cable Car Accident.

I always enjoy the AVweb report but one thing in Vol. 5 # 49a Prompts me to drop you this note.

The short paragraph on the Prowler accident with the cable car in Italy says that "20 skiers were killed". It may be true that this cable car is sometimes used to take skiers up the mountain, but at the time of the Prowler strike, it was filled with local people, just going home.

It may be a small point but people should not think that only a bunch of people on vacation were the victims.

AVweb responds...

Absolutely correct, Wendell. Thanks for pointing out our error.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Tony Pucillo

06 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

After reading the piece on the Jacoby crash, I keep having this image of a city worker cutting me out of a car that was rolled into a ball by some semitrailer and -- on my way to the ambulance -- handing me a bill.

Like most, I am unimpressed by the idea of a city suing a dead pilot -- killed by what appears to be an unpreventable mechanical failure -- for the crash that killed him and his family. It seems to be only the latest in a string of idiotic suits by big-city mayors. The legal and moral precedent is obnoxious.

What is the city suing for? "Destroyed buildings, damaged homes ... injured people and overtime expenses." The city has no RIGHT to sue for any but the last, if that. Only the individual person or owner, or more properly the insurer who pays expenses, may do so.

All the noise about "injured people" and damaged private property merely obfuscates the city's attempt to "get a piece" of any available coverage first. This pilot's liability coverage surely has claim limits, and this suit would divert any settlement from the supposed "25 injured people" and damaged private property, if indeed they exist. How cynical does a politician have to be, to claim he's acting on behalf of the real victims he's trying to pre-empt?

This claim for 60,000 or more hours of "overtime" work ($3,000,000 at an assumed $50/hour PER employee) is outrageous on its face. That's 6,000 workers putting in an extra 10-hour shift. Just how many emergency workers does the City of Newark employ? (Sounds like a "light bulb" joke.) Did they all show up on overtime in the hope the feds would pick up the tab? This case could give us an interesting look at big-city labor policies and pork, if it's actually pursued.

What next? Does Newark plan to sue Beech because they build airplanes? Cities should sue for the damaged signs, guardrails and similar losses, just like any other property owner, and that's where the law and good sense say they should stop. Perhaps a boycott of Newark's convention and other facilities would save all those city workers enough hours that overtime won't be necessary in the future.

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G. Todd Whitman

6 Dec 1999

DOT Test Slams Airport Security

DOT did some security checks at Dulles International (IAD) in the recent weeks, too, ... we just have not made the newspapers. As air traffic controllers, we bypass the security screening and zip through the baggage tunnel to reach the tower. The doors on both sides of the tunnel leading in are required to be opened individually by each badged person.

As a controller was LEAVING the secure area, a woman tried to grab the door to enter the baggage tunnel. The controller eventually had to grab the woman's arm and let the door shut. The whole time, she said "I have a badge, its here in my pocket." The controller said, "Okay, then now you can use it!"

As the controller walked away with the door secured behind him, two men in suits approached him and said they were from security. They said congratulations and presented him with a $5.00 coupon from one of the restaurants in the terminal ... maybe enough for a cup of coffee!

We all laughed about the incident, but we are concerned. How far is a controller or other non-security employee supposed to go to try and prevent entry into one of the secure areas?

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Rick Dill

05 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

As an inactive pilot but someone still interested, the Jacoby crash distressed me. Again I was brought to understanding how unforgiving flying is. My heart goes out to the Jacoby family and their friends.

What distressed me even more was the radio press. WCBS in New York broadcast that the plane impacted the ground at 800 miles per hour. Now that is well beyond reason, since it is well above the speed of sound. Your report that the radar recorded 7800 fpm descent would indicate that the vertical speed was less than 90 mph (still impressive). It would have had to been going well over 700 mph horizontally in a better than 5:1 glide to get to 800 mph. I don't think so.

I believe that some of the reaction in Newark was stirred up because the press portrayed the flight as unreasonable and the impact so horrible. Some people interviewed by the press wanted compensation to move to another place because the trauma has made their sleep difficult. Is this real distress, or just a way to get a better place? I guess I have trouble being sympathetic when I see their lack of sympathy.

As a bystander, I do not (yet) have any reason to understand why the flight would have been unreasonable, given the experience of the pilot and the equipment he had. Clearly something simply went wrong.

I guess that today, the first thing to do is sue .. then think

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Hilary B. Miller

04 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I found AVweb's comment:

The suit holds Jacoby's estate responsible for damage to vehicles and structures, plus cleanup costs and the ever-present attorneys fees, estimated at more than $3 million. "And that's probably low," Reuters quoted Pamela Goldstein, spokeswoman for Newark Mayor Sharpe James, as saying. The lawsuit comes less than a week after the tragedy. Given the childish treatment GA received during the AOPA EXPO in Atlantic City, why don't we all just avoid New Jersey from now on?

from the 12/2 Newswire inappropriate and not up to your usual standard of professionalism.

To the extent that the negligence of the operator of the aircraft caused this accident, a suit against his estate is an appropriate and, indeed, the only method of causing the operator's insurance carrier to bear the costs of his negligence. Even the most ardent lawyer-bashers would readily agree that these costs should properly be borne by the party whose negligence caused the harm and not by innocent victims on the ground. That the plaintiffs seek to recover their attorneys' fees from the wrongdoer suggests merely -- and once again, appropriately -- that such costs should not have to be borne by the victims. While an irreverent and skeptical style is an appealing feature of your staff's writing, this kind of thoughtless editorializing has no place in a news column.

Otherwise your biggest fan,

Law offices of Hilary B. Miller, Esq.
Greenwich, Connecticut 06830-3942

AVweb responds...

Hilary, my friend, much as I respect your judgment about legal matters, I can't help but think that the timing of this announcement (only days after the crash that wiped out nearly an entire family) really stinks, as does Mayor Sharpe James' public grandstanding about it. There appears to be no evidence of negligence this early in the investigation, nor any indication of who (if anyone) might have contributed to the accident. I see no reason on earth for the mayor to be going public with this at this point in time.

From where I sit, it looks like this is really a power play between the mayor of Newark and the governor of New Jersey. Mayor James apparently asked Governor Christine Todd Whitman to declare Newark a disaster area so that low-cost loans would be available to those on the ground who were injured or damaged by the crash. The governor refused (for whatever reason), at which point the mayor announced angrily to the press that the city of Newark was filing suit against Jacoby's estate.

In my opinion, this is unmitigated political grandstanding at its worst, and deserves condemnation in the strongest terms.

I'll grant that our "ever-present attorneys fees" line might have been a bit gratuitous, but we learned of the lawsuit just before deadline and we were outraged.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Gene Olson

3 Dec 1999

EAA Family Flight Camp

I just finished reading Rick Durden's column in AVweb about attending the EAA family flight camp in Oshkosh. It sounds like a great time, and I'm already planning how I'll convince the family to attend as soon as my son is old enough in a couple years (he'll be three in February).

I'm an airport planner for the Indiana Department of Transportation, and I occasionally get the opportunity to attend the annual meetings of the State Aeronautics Directors from the Great Lakes Region. Last April, this meeting was hosted by the Wisconsin Bureau of Aeronautics and the EAA. Our two day meeting was at the Air Academy Lodge, and guess who was our host...none other than Chuck Larsen! He gave the welcome speech that kicked off the event and served as tour guide, information resource, luncheon server, and even taxi driver (he gave me a ride back to Basler when it was time to fly home). We had some common ground to talk about, since my wife is a police officer and Chuck was a cop in a previous life to work his way through school. I liked him immediately and I think EAA is lucky to have him, although it may have been inevitable that EAA and an aviation enthusiast like Chuck would naturally gravitate toward each other.

At that time, the Hangar X project was still under construction, but the State Aviation and FAA officials all received a tour and explanation of the goals of the various EAA educational programs. My lasting impression was that, while still making everything fun and enjoyable, these folks are very intent on developing a serious educational program designed to increase awareness and participation in aviation. Everyone we met had very impressive backgrounds and credentials in education as well as aviation. As a pilot and aviation professional, I'm very glad that EAA is taking on this challenge to ensure the future of our chosen vocation/avocation. One of the impressive things I witnessed was to see high-level FAA staffers inquiring and planning family camp visits of their own.

On a personal note, my first "Oshkosh" was 1998. Last April, it was a shock to land at the airport and see it empty! This had an interesting impact on me during our conference. We had a few moments to go outside and enjoy the brisk Wisconsin spring air during our breaks from meetings, and I took those opportunities to walk around the Air Academy Lodge. It struck me that the activities at Oshkosh are full-time and year-round, not just during the annual Convention. I found myself whispering, "This is what it's all about!" to myself as I gazed at the Lodge, the Pioneer Airport, and the new mock control tower. Its good to get out and re-charge the batteries every once in a while and remind yourself why you got into this business in the first place.

I enjoy Rick Durden's columns in AVweb. They seem to put into words many of the feelings I have regarding aviation people, flying, and what they mean. Keep up the good work!

Gene N. Olson
Project Manager
INDOT -- Aeronautics Section

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William R. High

03 Dec 1999

High Cost of Flight School Insurance

I'm a owner operator of a small flight school in Hot Springs Arkansas: Tallyho Flight Training Inc. We just received our insurance policy premium notice, a huge increase in cost from just over $9,000 last year to just under $12,000 for three pilot-friendly Cessna aircraft (one C152 and two C172s). We've had zero losses.

These cost increases have made me think twice about continuing in business. As you know, most aviation business such as mine are a labor of love. We are struggling just to keep the doors open. This, along with fuel price increases, make it hard to operate at a profit. So far this year, we are down by $22K. Another year like this and we will be gone.

Please tell our story to the AVweb readers.

Bill High
CFI CFII ASC
Tallyho Flight Training Inc
Hot Springs, Ark.

AVweb responds...

This is not the first insurance horror story we've heard lately, and I'm afraid it won't be the last.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Isa Allah

3 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I live down the street on Winans Ave. in Newark not two blocks from the accident. I was sleeping in my bed when it happened. I'm a student pilot at Embry-Riddle and was home for the Thanksgiving Holiday from Embry-Riddle. I heard a loud bang that woke me up out of my sleep. When I looked out of the window to see what had happened, I saw everyone running out of their houses and up the street to see what was going on. I threw on some clothes and ran up the street myself to see what was something like a war zone. Their was smoke rising up from behind the building where the plane had initially hit. I thought a big passenger jet had crashed into the ground because a lot of passenger traffic flies over the city. Power lines were down, cars were on fire and it looked like pictures that I had seen in previous air disasters. I never in my life thought that I would see a plane crash, but there it was starring me in the face.

Now my city is sewing the guy's estate for damages. Offering my personal opinion on the subject as an eyewitness and a resident of Newark, I don't think it should because the guy's family and friends and already grieving and their going to go ahead and do something like this. The city has enough money to pay for and repair the damages. They need to stop and think about what they are actually doing here. This is an aviation accident, not a drunk driver hitting a bunch of children waiting for a schoolbus.

AVweb responds...

Whether or not the city should or should not sue Dr. Jacoby's estate for damages depends on whether Jacoby was negligent or not. Seems to us the least the city could have done was wait until the NTSB investigates the accident and determines a probable cause.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Bill Watkins

3 Dec 1999

Phelps MOA in North Carolina

I was irritated at your recent AVflash piece on the proposed Phelps MOA in North Carolina. In it you stated, "Pilots who want to speak out against the long-proposed Phelps Military Operations Area along the North Carolina coast are getting another chance...." You automatically assumed that all readers of your digest would oppose this expanded military airspace.

I am a civilian pilot, a Naval Flight Officer and a member of AOPA. On this issue, I believe that the MOA is the best compromise for all parties involved. What is unknown to most civilian pilots is that military frequently currently traverse the area in question, legally, under VFR. There is no way for the average GA pilot to know this, let alone check on the status of the area in question under the current arrangement. The MOA enhances the awareness of the GA community of the number of high-speed aircraft operating in that area. VFR traffic still has the right to traverse the area under their own risk, a risk many pilots don't want to take upon themselves. IFR traffic gets routed around, rather than through a high traffic area where Washington Center's radar has significant gaps in coverage and separation from VFR contacts cannot always be assured.

As a GA pilot who has flown through this area, I know that the myriad of lines on the chart of eastern NC can be daunting. As a military aviator, I also know that not all of the airspace is constantly active. But, in the latter role, I am acutely aware of the volume of traffic that moves through this area, and firmly believe that the Phelps MOA is long overdue.

In this week's AVflash, I read the paragraph and followed the link to Dr. Blue's article on his F-15E ride from Seymour Johnson AFB. The very crews that he flew with and spoke about are those that make extensive use of the airspace in the vicinity of R-5314 and the proposed Phelps MOA.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for your perspective, Bill. Obviously, we should have said, "Pilots who want to speak out in favor of or against the long-proposed Phelps MOA..."

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jonathan Novak

3 Dec 1999

Whose Wrights?

Concerning your story:

WHOSE WRIGHTS -- NORTH CAROLINA'S OR OHIO'S? You may have seen the dueling license plates -- Ohio's bears the motto "Birthplace of Aviation," and North Carolina's tag proclaims "First in Flight." Now an Ohio state legislator wants to raise the bar in the battle for the legacy (and associated tourist dollars) of the Wright brothers. He wants to insert the Wright Flyer into the Great Seal of Ohio, just above the sun rising over a mountain range, a wheat field and a bundle of 17 arrows (for the 17th state).

The Great Seal of Ohio has the sun rising over the mountains? I'm sure they have sun in Ohio ... but mountains?

Jon Novak
Estes Park, Colorado

AVweb responds...

As Albert Einstein pointed out, there are mountains, and then there are mountains.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Miguel Sandoval

03 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

Last year during that Santa Fe, N.M., flap by the mayor and city council members, some of your regular readers may recall that I emailed AVweb stating that as president of our companies, I had put our corporate aircraft "off limits" into the Santa Fe area and my ban of Santa Fe is still in place.

Today, after reading the AVweb message about Newark, N.J., and its lawsuit against the estate of Itzhak Jacoby, I've put it "off limits" too! One thing for sure, it was harder for me to declare beautiful Santa Fe off limits than City of Newark. The way I see it, any bureaucrats that do not like GA don't need our money in their city, and I've advised our sales people that should a customer in Santa Fe and now Newark ask to see us, tell them straight up why we won't come.

AVweb responds...

Good for you, Miguel!

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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John Mcmurray

3 Dec 1999

Jane Garvey's Y2K flight

Has anyone bothered to ask Ms. Garvey during which midnight she intends to fly? Unless I'm badly mistaken, the FAA's computers run on UTC, not local time. If Ms. Garvey takes off just before midnight EST, it will be almost 4 hours since the FAA computer clocks rolled over, giving her plenty of time to see if anything catastrophic will happen and cancel the flight so she can "take command of the repair efforts." On the other hand, I can understand her dilemma. If she takes off just before 2000 EST/midnight UTC, she will confuse the heck out of the vast majority of the American people who will think she is cheating by taking off early. Ahhh, the pressures of office.

By the way, our local "Why2K?" fly-out is still go. The idea is for everyone at the local airport to takeoff just before midnight UTC (1900 CST here in Texas) and fly around VFR with GPS and Loran off through midnight UTC, thereby proving that, even if the rest of the world collapses, the GA fleet of 30 year-old aircraft is still capable of operating safely and efficiently without computers. See you there!

AVweb responds...

We're not sure exactly what flight Administrator Garvey plans to take on Y2K eve, but we sure hope she's got her seat booked already. From what we hear of how the airlines are cutting back flights that night, the best she could probably do now is get wait-listed.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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George Seay

02 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

The comment on Newark's filing of a suit against the Jacoby estate was deeply distressing. The accident caused lifelong trauma to numerous Newark residents.Equating the recourse to legal action with a flawed convention suggests a serious lapse in moral judgement.

AVweb responds...

We are pleased to hear that the Newark residents' lifelong trauma will be ameliorated by vast quantities of someone else's cash. Punishing Dr. Jacoby's heirs will also certainly discourage him from ever doing such a thing again. We all appreciate that in the best American tradition, when something bad happens, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PAY, regardless of the etiology of the tragedy.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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David Reinhart

2 Dec 1999

Cockpit Videocameras

I'm not a supporter of putting in cockpit video recorders, but I find some of the comments on the idea to be very interesting. In particular are the comments in the "Big Brother" and "I wouldn't want to fly with somebody looking over my shoulder" categories.

I'm too young to remember when cockpit voice recorders became required equipment. I'm don't even know when that FAR went into effect. However, I can't help but wonder if many of the exact same objections were made about voice recorders that are now being made about video systems.

My impression from the CVR transcripts I've seen is that the crews pretty much ignore the fact they're being recorded. One major carrier (I think it was American) had cockpit cameras for awhile that showed the flight deck during take off and landing over the entertainment monitors. I'd be interested to hear from some former aircrew why that was dropped.

AVweb responds...

According to retired FAA inspector and regular AVmail contributor Michael Falabella:

"The cameras were there until a DC10 blew an engine on takeoff at just about Vr departing JFK runway 4R. The pax viewed this command performance in the cockpit. AAL removed the cameras not long after that. Bad publicity."

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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James Baker

2 Dec 1999

How Much Will It Cost to Fly?

Thanks for Eugene Unterman's great article.  I am not a pilot now but I am planning to take flight lessons in the near future. I have been trying to find the "real" cost of ownership. I have been boating for many years and recognized the cost of that hobby is much greater than just the cost of the vessel and the fuel. Out of curiosity, I have been looking at used planes on the Internet -- not to purchase -- just to try and determine if ownership would be within my reach. When I look at these planes, I know their are hidden costs.

I appreciate the rule of thumb that Unterman offers: twice the cost of fuel, plus 25% for every 10 years of aircraft age. That is a great guideline to establish a baseline cost and prevent getting in over your head.

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Tom Turner

02 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

Again, let me state how this loss affects the Jacoby's elder daughter so terribly, and how much we in the Beechcraft community will be far poorer for Itzhak's passing.

Calling the city of Newark's action in filing a lawsuit against Jacoby's estate an "insult" or "childish," as AVweb did in the December 2 report, is one-sided emotionalism at least as flagrant as many accuse the New Jersey press regarding this tragedy. If an eighteen-wheeler careened off the interstate and damaged your home or your car, or injured someone in your family, no one would think twice about you hiring a lawyer to go after the driver. If the driver was killed, or was not wealthy enough or insured enough to pay for your loss, you'd expect your lawyer to sue the trucking company, the truck manufacturer, whomever hired the trucking line, and who knows, maybe even the company that built the road the truck drove off from, in order to pay for your injury and loss. The city of Newark is out over $1 million for damage control and cleanup resulting from the Bonanza's impact, and has lawyers on staff precisely to seek reimbursement for that loss.

Although decency might have led the city of Newark to delay in filing its lawsuit, we can't fault them for doing so. Let's say that instead of filing against the Jacoby estate, the city instead filed on its own insurance, and required any citizens personally damaged to file with their carriers as well. The only result would be that the insurance companies would pay off the claims, and then turn around and file against the estate individually--instead of one suit against the family, there would be dozens. It's likely this will happen anyway.

Original reports were that the damage resulting from Itzhak's crash were valued around $1 million. Figure legal fees and other expenses, and it's easy to come up with a $3 million target figure for damages.

If the city magnanimously decided to "eat" the expense itself, it would have to divert public funds from other programs and services, or increase tax collection to pay for the loss. The Jacoby family would not be financially impacted, but the citizens of Newark would be wrongfully penalized for being in the wrong place at a very wrong time.

Raytheon Aircraft Corporation may indeed be protected by the statute of repose, but that has not been fully tested in the courts to date. Of course, if Raytheon is "off the hook," then the company that installed the most recent engine, the persons who installed and inspected the airplane's instruments and pneumatic system, and whomever signed Itzhak off for his last instrument proficiency check or Flight Review will likely be served with a lawsuit themselves.

We talk about the freedom of flight and the great feeling of taking personal responsibility for our actions. Liability is the downside of that freedom.

I'll not be surprised if this leads to at least talk of requiring dual gyro systems or additional training and currency requirements for instrument flight, because of the high public visibility of this most unfortunate event in so populated a place. Coming on the heels of the Kennedy crash, the concepts of visual and instrument flight in "little" airplanes are now in the public debate, both in a bad light.

How do we avoid this in the future? To quote the slogan of FlightSafety International, "The best safety device in an aircraft...is a well-trained pilot." Itzhak continues to teach us.

Thomas P. Turner
Mastery Flight Training
Cleveland, Tennessee

AVweb responds...

Tom, thanks for your thoughtful note. You say, "Although decency might have led the city of Newark to delay in filing its lawsuit, we can't fault them for doing so." It seems to me that we can certainly fault them for doing so prematurely, long before the cause of the accident has been established. The city's timing was, to use your words, indecent.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Scott R. Meister

02 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I think the city should sue if the pilot's liability coverage doesn't cover the damage he caused when he crashed. It would be irresponsible for them not to recover their expenses. I'm no lawyer flag-waver, believe me, but demonizing them and likening them to Atlantic City's mayor is wrong. My Aerostar, Skyhawk and Porterfield are also based here in Princeton (39N). I have to stay in N.J.

AVweb responds...

We didn't mean to condemn the entire state of New Jersey for the acts of two of its most despicable politicians. We do think that the Newark mayor's action in suing the Jacoby estate long before the cause of the crash is known was completely unnecessary, and in horrendously bad taste.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Glenn Plymate

2 Dec 1999

Crash of Itzhak Jacoby's Bonanza Near EWR

Concerning the posting from St Stephan Ames concerning gyro failure and partial-panel flying [AVmail, 29-Nov-99]:

I experienced a similar failure, which occurred at a most critical time. I had just taken off in my Cessna 195. The ceiling was 400 feet; with a stratus layer about 2,000 feet thick. Just as I entered the overcast, my attitude gyro died. It began indicating a right wing down. Cross-checking my other instruments showed I was not turning. Two compasses and my turn and bank showed heading was steady. My VSI showed I was climbing. My altimeter showed I was climbing. My ASI showed a normal climb speed. However, the attitude gyro showed a continuing bank to the right, and shortly it was laying full over. I had to disregard it. There was no time to cover the offending instrument. I don't think it could have happened at a worse time.

So, it was five instruments against one showing me what was happening. It did not seem difficult to continue on "partial panel" but it was nothing like a training situation. One instrument began giving me misleading information.

A cross-check with my other instruments quickly confirmed it was dying. That's why "scanning" is so important in instrument flying and why there are six basic instruments to rely on. It seemed simple to ignore the bad one in my scan once I determined it was bad.

If I'd obeyed what that attitude gyro was telling me, I probably wouldn't be here to give you this first-person account of surviving an instrument failure at low altitude. I hope this will give some confidence to prospective instrument pilots, and emphasize the importance of perfecting your scanning technique. Never take your cues from only one instrument.

I'm sure there are many others, too, that can give positive reports of flying with actual instrument failures.

AVweb responds...

Congratulations on your handling of that emergency, Glenn, and thanks for sharing it. As you said, a real gyro failure is nothing at all like a CFI slapping a No-Peekie over an instrument in training. A good flight simulator, however, can provide excellent training for handling gyro failures.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Nat Kingsley

02 Dec 1999

Crash of Itzhak Jacoby's Bonanza Near EWR

Far from being "not very illuminating," the transcript of Itzhak Jacoby's communications with ATC spoke volumes to me!

Three times he did not reply to the controller's calls and then three times he replied only that "I have a problem!" I envisioned a pilot struggling desperately to get or maintain control of his aircraft.

Thought-provoking. Sobering. Terrifying!

Nat Kingsley
Long-lapsed Instrument pilot and CFII

AVweb responds...

Terrifying indeed, Nat! There but for the grace of God...

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Bob Sapio

2 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

One the articles in this Thursday's AVflash suggested "Given the childish treatment GA received during the AOPA EXPO in Atlantic City, why don't we all just avoid New Jersey from now on?".

Please do, it will leave more room for those of us who live and fly in N.J.

AVweb responds...

Okay, Bob, I'll admit that was a little over-the-top. We learned of the Newark mayor's decision to sue the Jacoby estate just before deadline, and we were mightily upset. Stuff like that tends to cloud one's judgment a bit. Sorry.

I did a lot of flying in New Jersey in the late '60s when I attended Princeton University, and later lived in New York. It's unquestionably a beautiful place to fly. (Landing there, however, appears to be not altogether without risk these days.)

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Jim Goodman

2 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

I've been flying for five years and I read aviation literature constantly. I appreciate the humor and informality of AVweb's newsletter, but I have a problem with your critical remarks about the lawsuit filed by the city of Newark against Jacoby's estate.

There's no question that Jacoby's crash caused real injuries and damage. This is not a case of someone manufacturing a frivolous claim. Why shouldn't the city seek to recover damages on behalf of its citizenry? In fact, wouldn't it be irresponsible if the city didn't? Should they refrain from suing out of sympathy for the Jacoby family? Should they refrain out of respect for the wonderful institution of general aviation?

I don't think it helps GA when we take extreme or defensive positions about actions by the public, the FAA or other government entities. Let's save our criticism for the unreasonable and irrational acts of others, not the rational ones. We'll maintain our credibility that way.

AVweb responds...

To call the timing of the announcement by Mayor Sharpe James "unseemly and gratuitous" would a gross understatement. Hizzoner made his decision to sue without a scintilla of evidence that the crash was caused by the negligence of Dr. Jacoby ... or by anyone else for that matter. Why is Mayor James in such a rush? Couldn't he have waited for the NTSB factual report (or perhaps even the funeral)? His action is political grandstanding at its most grotesque and disgusting, in our view.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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William R. Hemme

02 Dec 1999

Carbon Monoxide Detector

I just ordered and received the AIM SAS-696D carbon monoxide detector that Mike Busch recommended in his AVweb review.  In reading the unit's instruction manual, however, I find that it is not recommended for motorhome or aircraft use. So now I don't know who to believe -- AVweb or the manufacturer. Any comments?

AVweb responds...

You are certainly not the first to ask this question, Bill.

The verbiage in the SAS-696D owners manual is there because Underwriter's Laboratory insists that it be there for all units which receive UL 2034 certification. UL tests CO detectors only for residential use, and wants to make sure that nobody gets the impression that the UL 2034 approval extends to other uses. Every UL 2034 detector on the market has essentially the same wording in its manual.

I've discussed aviation usage at length with both management and engineering at AIM Safety, the manufacturer. They tell me that they're completely comfortable with the AIM SAS-696D being used in aircraft, and that they will absolutely honor their product warranty for units used in such an application.

The folks at AIM Safety also tell me that the only way they could remove the verbiage from the owners manual would be to come out with a different model number that was non-UL-approved and differed only in that it had a different owners manual. However, because the aviation market for these devices is so small, AIM Safety is not really very interested in doing that.

Hope this answers your concern.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Enrique Muyshondt

02 Dec 1999

Pilot Error?

The following appeared in the December 1 issue of Defense News:

"A Sentry unmanned aerial vehicle crashed on Nov. 16. ... Industry sources said the cause of the mishap was pilot error."

Even when the pilot isn't there, it's "Pilot Error."

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Jim McUmber

2 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

Honorable Mayor Sharpe James
Newark, New Jersey

Dear Mayor,

I am concerned with your city's reaction to the crash of Itzhak Jacoby's airplane. The city of Newark, N.J. is reacting poorly to this tragedy. I believe this situation deserves your personal attention.

I recently read the following excerpt from AVflash.

...WHILE CITY SUES JACOBY ESTATE
As if the tragedy of the Jacoby crash wasn't enough, the City of Newark, N.J., Wednesday added its own form of insult to his loss by filing a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the estate he left behind less than a week ago. The suit holds Jacoby's estate responsible for damage to vehicles and structures, plus cleanup costs and the ever-present attorneys' fees, estimated at more than $3 million.

Mayor, I strongly disapprove of your city's actions. I would like to make three statements:

1. This crash involves a tragic end to three lives who had no intent on inflicting damage to the city of Newark.

2. The city should wait until the investigation is complete to determine any negligence on Mr. Jacoby's part in this crash. Mr. Jacoby was a well-respected pilot and professional. He has exhibited a pattern of behavior that deserves more respect than this lawsuit shows.

3. In today's world there are many inherent risks that we deal with every day. Isn't our social structure, to which your city belongs, designed to help alleviate the pain and suffering of all our citizens, including the victims of this crash?

I would appreciate the favor of a response.

Jim McUmber
Wilkesboro, N.C.

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Dieter Zube

02 Dec 1999

Birds and Airports

Comment on the recent AVmail contribution by Jeff Murray concerning airports as wildlife sanctuaries [AVmail, 29-Nov-99]:

Jeff, your idea is already reality. In the German town of Freiburg (Southwest Germany close to the French and Swiss border) "concerned neighbors" tried to close the local airport. (Their real intent was to convert it into an industrial zone, but that wasn't all that obvious.) Until environmentalists discovered that a rare species of butterflies was breeding on the airport ground (and some other rare amphibians). Thus, the very unlikely coalition of GA supporters and environmentalists banded together, and at least for now, the airport is save (with some acceptable noise restrictions as far as I understand).

A new strategy for saving airports? You betcha...

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Stephen Riethof

2 Dec 1999

City Of Newark Sues Jacoby Estate

AVweb mentioned the Newark suit against Jacoby. A newspaper account indicates that the suit also involves "'John Does 1-100' responsible for the care and maintenance of his Beechcraft Bonanza." If they discover that Dr. Jacoby subscribed to AVweb, you guys are probably also busted!!!

AVweb responds...

Dr. Jacoby was indeed an early subscriber and active reader of AVweb, and we shall surely miss him.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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Dan Guerra

1 Dec 1999

Handheld GPS Reviews

My name is Dan Guerra and I am a student pilot with 40-45 hours in Pipers and Cessnas. I am into computers and gadgets a lot, and have always wanted a GPS just for fun. I know that sounds silly, but I have been in several situations where such a gadget could prove useful. Since I have seen that the prices for handheld units has fallen sharply in the past few years, I have decided to finally buy one. I don't know that much about them, so I searched for some info on the Internet.

I found a whole bunch of articles on AVweb that Mike Busch wrote comparing various GPS models, and I must say that the information he gave is excellent. I can't tell you how valuable these article are. I have been to all the manufacturers Web sites. Boring!!! All they do is list features, and they do it in no logical order. What I needed was someone who actually tested them and explained the features and how they are used. There could be several units that offer zoom features but how? Is it a dedicated zoom button? Must I go through several menus to zoom? Do I have to hold down shift?

I am extremely grateful that Mr. Busch took the time to evaluate these and post the results free on the Web. I have decided to go with one of the Lowrance AirMaps. I'm not sure which one, but I am leaning towards the AirMap 100.

Once again, I just wanted to thank AVweb and Mike Busch for helping me pick out a GPS.

AVweb responds...

Thanks for the kind words, Dan. We're fortunate that the Web allows us freedom from the normal copyfitting constraints that writers for conventional paper publications must live with. Product reviews on AVweb can be as long and detailed as they need to be. We suspect that more and more consumers will turn to the Internet (rather than paper magazines) for the information they need to make informed purchase decisions.

--Mike Busch, Editor-in-Chief

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