"Short
Final..."
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.| 25-Nov-02 | In a holding pattern behind several
aircraft...
Pilot: Request an estimate for our clearance for the approach. Controller: Bonanza 1234, is there a problem? Pilot: Do the words, "Daddy, I gotta go potty!" mean anything to you? Controller: Bonanza 1234, cleared for the approach. |
| 18-Nov-02 | Pilot: Approach, Cessna 1234, student
pilot ... I am at 3500 feet and am otherwise a bit lost.
Approach: We will try to help you. Do you see a city, highway, or water tower nearby? Pilot: There is a city nearby with a water tower. Approach: Fly over the water tower and tell us what you see written on it. [pause] Pilot: "Class of '98" |
| 11-Nov-02 | Overheard following a Lear's very steep
climb out of Teterboro:
Controller: "Lear 12345, after retrieving your passengers from the tail section, contact departure..." |
| 04-Nov-02 | Overheard on Tallahassee Approach during
heavy turbulence conditions.
TLH Approach: Cessna 12345, state intentions. Pilot: Cessna 12345 intends to land without hurling ... somehow. |
| 28-Oct-02 | You know it's football season when...
Unknown Pilot: There's some bad interference on twenty-six nine. Controller: Roger. That's 15 yards ... automatic first down! |
| 21-Oct-02 | Another good "Rule of Thumb"
overheard at Sun 'n Fun:
Cessna 123: Tower, I have a load of Young Eagles on board. Do you have any idea how long I should keep them up here? Tower: Cessna 123, ahhh, until the second one throws up ... that should just about do it. |
| 14-Oct-02 | Another for our "Make the punishment
fit the crime" file:
A test pilot for Cessna Aircraft Company logged over 3000 hours flying over Independence, Kan., in five years of service with the company. For his anniversary, the pilot was given a tie tack and a certificate for a free one-hour airplane ride ... over Independence, Kan. |
| 07-Oct-02 | More from our "We love it when they
play along ..." file:
Aircraft: Ground. Extra NXXX at the south "T's," VFR to the northwest with information "Extra" ... I'm sorry, information "Echo." Ground: Good morning NXXX. Taxi to Runway 31. Information "Fast- airplane" now current! |
| 30-Sep-02 | Lapses in attention near Strasbourg
(France):
Pilot: Air France Alpha Victor short final 23. Controller: AF Alpha Victor cleared to land 23. Is it for a full stop? Pilot: Wait a second. I'll ask the passengers. |
| 23-Sep-02 | Inbound to ... ?
Taking advantage of the classic Midwest winter -- solid overcast with about a 2,000 ceiling -- one local resident on the approach path to Milwaukee Mitchell airport's 19R last year offered a neatly lettered rooftop sign, "Welcome to Cleveland!" |
| 16-Sep-02 | Boston Center is a busy frequency, so it's
not uncommon for controllers and pilots to unwittingly "step" on
each other's transmissions ...
Boston Center: " ... <garbled> ... descend and maintain 110." Unknown aircraft: "That was blocked, sir." Boston Center: "Good, then I can change it." |
| 09-Sep-02 | More from our "signs of the
times" file ...
When President Bush is in residence at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, the prohibited area around it often expands, and pilots are instructed by NOTAM to contact nearby Waco approach control for assistance in avoiding the airspace. While flying recently in the area, a pilot monitoring frequency overheard the following from the very busy Waco controller: Cessna 1234, don't be alarmed by the two F-16s circling a couple of thousand feet overhead ... and DON'T climb until advised. |
| 02-Sep-02 | More from our "trailer and tractor no
factor" department:
Waterloo Approach (providing flight following): Cherokee 123, I've got a primary target at your 2 o'clock, 3 miles, altitude unknown. Looks low and real slow. Cherokee 123: Waterloo, any info on altitude or speed? Waterloo Approach: No, primary target only. Wait a minute ... disregard. Its a semi on the interstate. |
| 26-Aug-02 | About five years ago in a 727 on a scheduled service run into Orlando descending below 15,000 feet ... During one three-minute span the aircraft received five "vector for traffic" calls from Approach Control. Upon receiving the sixth the Captain asked, "Are we the only ones up here with ailerons today?" |
| 19-Aug-02 | Flying to Los Angeles from San Francisco, a passenger noticed that, although the flight was a particularly smooth one, the "Fasten Seat Belts" sign stayed illuminated throughout the entire trip. Just before landing, he asked the flight attendant about it ... "Well," she explained, "up front there are 17 University of California girls going to Los Angeles for the weekend. "In back, there are 25 Coast Guard enlistees. What would you have us do?" |
| 12-Aug-02 | One night while climbing out on a single-engine IFR flight... N6851R: Denver, Centurion 6851R, checking in out of twelve for FL180. Center: 51R, radar contact fifty miles east of the Denver VOR. (pause) N6851R: Uh, Denver, 51R. Sir, I show us fifty miles WEST of Denver VOR. Center: 51R, correction: make that 24,950 miles east of the Denver VOR. |
| 05-Aug-02 | A Qantas 747 landed at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport just after the Rugby World Cup -- in which Australia beat France. De Gaulle has circular stands, so if an aircraft misses the turn-off it often must taxi around again to get back to it. As the Qantas aircraft did this... Paris ATC: Qantas 123, are you having difficulty? Qantas 123: No, just doing a victory lap! |
| 29-Jul-02 | Flying in marginal conditions a crew requested a tight turn over the outer marker in order to stay in sequence ahead of the pack. The following exchange was overheard after the maneuver: Pilot: That was a good turn over the marker. Thanks for making us number one. You ever worked at DFW? Controller: No ... but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
| 22-Jul-02 | More from our "Well, you ASKED!" file: Pilot: Tower, Cessna 1234, what's the wind doing? Tower: Blowing. (Laughter in background.) |
| 15-Jul-02 | At the Arlington NWEAA Regional Fly-in almost all the aircraft parking is on grass. As Mooneys are notorious for low prop clearance (and gear doors), the Aircraft Parking Tower tries to minimize their taxiing on grass. The result was the following: Tower: "Mooney 123, we have a special place for Mooneys." Mooney pilot: "So does the devil!" |
| 08-Jul-02 | Cessna 1234: ...15 miles from VORTAC.
Request a VOR Runway 14 approach, circle to land, full stop.
Approach: Cessna 1234, say your indicated airspeed. Cessna 1234: Our ground speed is 59 knots. Is that going to be a problem? Approach: No problem. We're open 24 hours. |
| 01-Jul-02 | Logic even Spock could appreciate:
Aircraft: Ground, Bigjet 123 would like to report a family of cats crossing taxiway Bravo. Ground: Roger. They're there to keep the family of mice off the taxiway. |
| 24-Jun-02 | Airline123: Airline 123, request a 360 to
parking.
Ground: 360 approved, 180 recommended. [pause] Airline123: You've been saving that one for while, haven't you? |
| 17-Jun-02 | As a B-757 pilot was vectored onto final
behind a 310 flying at 155 knots ...
Controller: Cleared for a Visual Approach. Maintain 170 knots for slower traffic ahead. 757 Crew: OK, we're visualizing Runway 36L and practicing slow flight. |
| 10-Jun-02 | Some years ago, streams of RAF Vulcan B2s
were flying into their base in extremely marginal (English) weather. Once
on the ground, and after roll out, each pilot in turn was asked,
"What height did you see the runway lights?" Answers such as 250
and 300 confirmed that pilots had landed within safe limits -- all except
the last. That radio sequence follows:
XXXXX -- On the runway from approach, which dispersal please. Tower -- Back to Alpha. At what height did you see the lights, please? [pause] XXXXX -- What lights? |
| 03-Jun-02 | Reportedly true ATIS:
Big Airport International information Delta. 2100 zulu ... [weather, approach information, NOTAMs, etc.] ... Arriving aircraft contact approach at 120.3 ... [silence] ... You stupid machine, why do you always do this to me? |
| 27-May-02 | More from our "everybody's a
critic" file:
Recently, a student and instructor were practicing holds over a VOR. Strong winds aloft led to a very messy hold entry. When finally established in the hold, the controller asked: "Cherokee 1234, was that the Spirograph entry?" |
| 20-May-02 | On Toledo departure control this week:
Departure: Diamond 1234, what is your on-course heading to St. Paul? Diamond: (After looking at the GPS) About 304 degrees for Diamond 1234. Departure: Diamond 1234, you are cleared about on course to St. Paul. |
| 13-May-02 | Like a lot of pilots I know, I tend to read back confirmation and reservation numbers and, out of habit, use the phonetic pronunciations for all alphabetic characters. Recently, while dealing with a car rental company, I was reading back my confirmation number -- One Five Alpha Two Quebec -- when I was interrupted with "Is that with a C or a K?" |
| 06-May-02 | A pilot was flying in his C-205 with his
two sons, ages 4 and 6, over the mountains of Tennessee, bucking a strong
headwind. He looked in the back and noticed the boys looking down in the
valley below, where a train was also heading northwest, and they were
barely gaining on it. Nothing was said.
Four months later, the younger son, Brian, was called to kindergarten roundup, where the officious school psychologist was conducting evaluations. When Brian's turn came, the shrink said: "Brian, what color is an apple?" Brian replied: "Are you talking about the inside or the outside of the apple?" Perplexed, the shrink went on: "Well, Brian, which goes faster, a train or a plane?" Straight-faced, Brian replied: "Well, Doctor, it kind of depends on the headwinds." |
| 29-Apr-02 | Tampa Approach: CAP Flight XXX, you have
traffic at your six o'clock position, 1 mile, same altitude.
CAP Flight XXX: Roger, Tampa, we don't have rear-view mirrors installed, so please keep us informed. |
| 22-Apr-02 | While recently flying from FLL to JFK an
airline captain was given holding instructions due to congestion. After
holding for quite some time, the captain finished an exchange with a
controller with an attempt to clarify his situation:
Captain: Copy. Could we get an EFC [expect further clearance], please? ATC: Indefinite. Captain: ...I don't think I have the fuel for that. |
| 15-Apr-02 | Like a lot of pilots I know, I tend to read back confirmation and reservation numbers and, out of habit, use the phonetic pronunciations for all alphabetic characters. Recently, while dealing with a car rental company, I was reading back my confirmation number -- One Five Alpha Two Quebec -- when I was interrupted with "Is that with a C or a K?" |
| 08-Apr-02 | Overheard on Ft. Smith, Arkansas, Approach
Frequency:
Cherokee 1234: "Cherokee 1234 requesting direct Paris." Razorback Approach: "Cherokee 1234, is that Paris, Arkansas, or Paris, Texas? ...It's kinda important." |
| 01-Apr-02 | Cessna 12345: Atlantic City approach, this
is Cessna 12345 with you out of eight thousand seven hundred for seven
thousand assigned. Tell me Atlantic City, why are we descending?
Atlantic City Approach: Well, it's just something you've got to do ... when you're going to land. |
| 25-Mar-02 | While waiting for clearance to leave
Avalon Air Force base after the "Air Show Down Under," the
following call was emitted by an obviously exasperated air traffic
controller...
Tower: "Cessna just departing Avalon, for your future information ... in the Southern Hemisphere most runways numbered 36 generally point NORTH!!!!!" |
| 18-Mar-02 | More from a child's perspective
A little boy and his mother were taking his first commercial airplane ride. After boarding the plane, taking off and being at cruise altitude for some time, the puzzled boy looked at his mother and said, "so when do we get smaller?" |
| 11-Mar-02 | Flight deck pun-manship:
While taxiing past aircraft stands, and noticing some passengers boarding the rear entrance of a Finnair DC9, the Captain remarked to the F/O: "Look at all those people disappearing into Finnair." |
| 04-Mar-02 | Aviate, Navigate, and, well ...
A brand-new pilot flew his then-girlfriend to Mendocino, Calif., to propose to her. His logbook entry for that day shows where his mind was: SQL to O48 -- Asked Monika to marry me, she said yes, will avoid the Class B airspace on the way home. |
| 25-Feb-02 | Found in our "Oh, THAT
shoreline..." file:
I was flying my first "Bay Tour" in the San Francisco Bay area and didn't yet know many of the landmarks. As I continued up the coastline I was handed over to SFO, who announced, "Cessna xxxxx, turn left to 300 and report Shoreline." I promptly reported that I was "unable." That course would not take me over the Shoreline Amphitheatre -- the landmark was retreating behind me. Regardless, the controller stated that it was at my 12:00, and "please report Shoreline." After going back and forth few times, the controller said, a bit exasperatedly, "It's the long thing with sand." |
| 18-Feb-02 | We dedicate this astute observation
overheard at Heli-Expo last week to all the great folks who attended the
event, and to sling-wing enthusiasts everywhere:
"If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter." |
| 11-Feb-02 | Instructor on ground with handheld radio
to first-time solo student: "Cessna 1234. Make sure you keep your
turns shallow and watch your airspeed. Copy?"
<silence> Instructor: "Cessna 1234, Tom, you ok up there?" <silence> Instructor: "Cessna 1234, um, Tom, you've got to key the mike. I can't hear it when you nod." |
| 04-Feb-02 | More from our "be careful what you
ask for" file:
Pilot: "Good Morning Vienna Ground, could you give me a rough time check?" Ground: "Good Morning sir, today is Tuesday." |
| 28-Jan-02 | More from our "Perspective is
everything" file...
Overheard while transitioning San Francisco Class Bravo, between Bay Approach and a United 747: Bay Approach: United 12345 Heavy, traffic a triple-7 at your 12 o'clock, climbing through 2,000 feet. United 12345: Roger Bay, we have the light twin in sight. |
| 21-Jan-02 | More from our "It's all in your point
of view" files...
A pilot departing La Crosse, Wis., contacted Minneapolis center. After initial contact, the following transmission was heard: "Attention all aircraft on this frequency, this controller position will no longer be manned." Perplexed, the captain and first officer looked at each other with amazement. After 10 or 15 seconds another transmission, now in a woman's voice, said... "That was not funny." |
| 14-Jan-02 | More from our "Approved,
direct..." file:
On a flight near Madison, Wis., a pilot overheard this exchange on the frequency: Madison Approach: "Cessna 1234, are you direct to Madison?" Cessna 1234: "We're trying." Madison Approach: "Cessna 1234, turn right 20 degrees and try harder." |
| 07-Jan-02 | More from our "Work imitates
life" file:
A pilot overheard this exchange between another pilot and a female controller at Miami Center: Cessna 1234: "Miami Center, this is Cessna 1234. Are you having radio problems? We're hearing intermittent static on your frequency." Miami Center: "Yeah, my husband says he gets intermittent static from me, also." |
| 31-Dec-01 | More from our "You're on your
own" file:
Kalamazoo Approach was giving an approach clearance to an instrument student, when the student told them he would have to cancel IFR and return to the field VFR. "We're having problems with the intercom, and I can't hear the instructor," he explained. "That's okay," the controller responded, "Instructors are optional." |
| 24-Dec-01 | More from our "Always ready to
help" file:
While flying out to Reno in September (for the Air Races that didn't happen) a pilot overheard the following on 122.0: "Albuquerque Flight Watch, this is King Air 12345, request weather from Santa Fe to your location and any reports of turbulence..." "King Air 12345, weather is ... nothing significant, and I've had no complaints about turbulence." "Roger, King Air 12345, thanks." "Albuquerque Flight Watch, this is Cessna 54321, if you want complaints about turbulence, I can give you some." |
| 17-Dec-01 | More from our "Old allegiances"
file...
Recently, a pilot listening on a frequency near Dallas/Fort Worth overheard this exchange between air traffic control and an American Airlines aircraft: ATC: American 1234, descend and maintain 5,000, heading 280. ... Silence ATC: American 1234, Regional Approach? ... Silence ATC: Okay, American 1234, will you answer to TWA? |
| 10-Dec-01 | More from our "Didn't we forget
something?" file:
A Lewisham reader told the Sydney (Australia) Morning Herald that one day, while boarding an airline flight aboard a twin-engine Saab, the smiling flight attendant welcomed everyone as usual, then raised the stairs and sealed the door. There was an expectant pause, then the head steward realized someone was missing. The door was opened, the stairs lowered ... and the pilot got on, to a round of applause. |
| 03-Dec-01 | More from our "Why we do this"
file....
A pilot took his grandson to the airport to watch airplanes, which always enthralled the boy. He watched, fascinated, as several airplanes took off and flew up, up and away, into the sky. Then they spotted a plane on final, and the boy asked what the plane was doing. The grandfather explained that the pilot was done flying and coming in to land now. And the boy looked up with angelic eyes and said, "But if you take off, why would you ever want to land?" |
| 26-Nov-01 | More from our "don't make me come up
there" file...
One Saturday, a student pilot (read: his CFI) failed to report his position as ordered by the tower. Just before turning base the controller realized that the sequence wouldn't work so he told the offender to make two left 360s and report back on base. Another aircraft entering the pattern called in and said that he had traffic in sight maneuvering ahead. The controller replied, "Don't worry about him, he's in the penalty box!" |
| 19-Nov-01 | More from our "center of
gravity" file...
During development of the A-7 Strike Fighter modification, it was necessary to ballast the nose to balance the plane for the F-101 engine. The U.S. Air Force strongly objected to use of the term "ballast," so the aerodynamics engineer then proposed 300 pounds of "Passive Stability Augmentation." That was approved. |
| 12-Nov-01 | Although the ATIS advertised visibility
above this student pilot's minimums, a setting sun and haze combined to
limit visibility...
Student: "Tower, Cessna 12345, student pilot, BUSY intersection, information BRAVO, landing, and I can't see bupkis." Tower: "Is that a nautical bupkis or a statute bupkis?" |
| 05-Nov-01 | Seen on a blackboard in a pilot's ready
room:
Orville: Call the bike shop; we're in deep trouble. Ma wants her bedsheets back! -- Wilbur |
| 29-Oct-01 | The pilot of Cessna N12345 had read back
his IFR clearance four times without getting it correct. It finally seemed
he had it but, alas, he asked:
N12345: "Ah, Clearance, what was that squawk code again?" Clearance: "Cessna 345, squawk 3423." N12345: "Clearance, we need a squawk code that ends in zero." Clearance (instantaneously): "How about 1200?" |
| 22-Oct-01 | More from our "We're ready when you
are" file...
XYZ123: "Good morning ground; Airline 123 request start-up and push- back, please." Tower: "Airline 123, expect start up in two hours." XYZ123: "Please confirm: Two hours' delay?" Tower: "Affirmative." XYZ123: "In that case, cancel the good morning!" |
| 15-Oct-01 | More from our "How low can you
go?" file...
A military student pilot on a low-level VFR flight was struggling to find the entry point to his route in less-than-perfect weather. Hoping to see the ground better at a lower altitude, he called Center. Student: "I need your lowest altitude ever." Center: "I can give you sea level, but I don't think you'll like it." |
| 08-Oct-01 | More from our "you ALMOST have the
idea, dear" file...
A few years ago, I was explaining to my spouse the traffic pattern and its different legs: Take-off, crosswind, downwind, base and final. The message seemed to be getting through. Later, on seeing a plane in the pattern at a local airport, my spouse happily announced, "Look, there's one on its last legs." Lake: "That's okay; he can't land on water." |
| 01-Oct-01 | More from our "Make up your
mind" file:
I overheard the following at National Airport last month, while all departing aircraft (including mine) were being held on the ground: Tower: "United XXX, can you execute a hard right turn without encroaching upon the runway?" United XXX: "Negative." (brief pause...) "I could if my engines were running." |
| 24-Sep-01 | More from our "company flight
plan" file...
I had a nice visit with my parents in Florida and, as usual, I promised to call as soon as I arrived home safely. A mag problem and Wx delays made the trip longer than normal, but I eventually got there and had this exchange: Me: "Indianapolis Approach, N12345, landing Indianapolis with (ATIS)." Indy Approach: "N12345, is there a 'Mark' on board?" Me, sheepishly: "Uhh, yes." Indy Approach: "CALL YOUR MOTHER!" |
| 17-Sep-01 | More from our "The mouths of
babes" file...
An airline pilot was traveling with his young son aboard a company jet. Late into the flight, the son said, "Dad, I can tell we are getting ready to land." The father proudly started thinking, "He must have noticed the attitude of the aircraft changing, or maybe he heard the slats extending and felt the speed brakes rumbling." When he asked his son how he knew that they were about to land, the reply was, "Because all the flight attendants are putting on their high-heeled shoes." |
| 10-Sep-01 | More from our "eye of the
beholder" file:
New York Center: "Bonanza 12345, you are overtaking Lake traffic at your ten o'clock and 4 miles, 6,500 feet." Bonanza 12345: "Traffic in sight." Center: "Lake 23456, Bonanza at your 5 o'clock, 6,000 feet is overtaking you." Lake: "That's okay; he can't land on water." |
| 03-Sep-01 | More from our "what happens when I
pull this?" file...
On a penny-a-pound ride I once gave at an airport open house, I used a 1957 C172, the one with the flap handle on the floor. On short final, I pulled on all 40 degrees on but we still floated a ways. Later, he told his mother that he liked the flight but, "When the guy pulled the emergency brake on, we still didn't stop!" |
| 27-Aug-01 | Heard last summer on an Oklahoma City (OKC)
Approach Control frequency:
Bellanca pilot: "Approach, I need to land and close my door." OKC Approach: "Are you having any control problems?" Bellanca pilot: "No more than usual." |
| 20-Aug-01 | Coming home from Oshkosh, I had a
conversation with a Chicago approach controller. He asked me about my
Cessna 140 and if I had been to OSH. He explained that he never had, so I
encouraged him to bid for a gig there...
Me: "You should seriously consider working the tower at the Oshkosh convention." Chicago Approach Control: "Oshkosh? No way. Too busy!" |
| 13-Aug-01 | A flight instructor was giving a final
review to a student pilot going for his Private Pilot check ride the next
day. The instructor was asking about various documents (A-R-R-O-W) that
must be aboard the airplane.
Instructor: "What has to be displayed in the airplane, facing front, that passengers can see?" Student: "The propeller...?" |
| 06-Aug-01 | More from our "thanks for the
memories" file:
Pilot: "Reagan Tower, airline 123 for the visual." DCA Tower: "If you'll refrain from calling us 'Reagan Tower,' we won't call you 'Eastern Airlines.'" |
| 16-Jul-01 | More from our "One good turn deserves
another" file...
Several years ago while instructing in sailplanes, I took a young boy for his first flight. I had to fly from the front seat to keep the weight and balance of the Schweizer 2-33 within the envelope. I found a weak thermal and racked the glider into a steep 360-degree turn. Since I was concentrating on milking all the lift I could from the thermal, I neglected to keep my passenger apprised of what I was doing. After completing about 20 consecutive 360s, I heard a weak, quivering voice from the back seat ask, "What's the matter mister, is it stuck?" |
| 09-Jul-01 | More from our "home is where the
airplanes are" file...
A Navy officer was cutting through the crew's quarters of his carrier one day and happened upon a sailor reading a magazine with his feet up on the small table in front of him. "Sailor! Do you put your feet up on the furniture at home?" the officer demanded. "No, sir, but it's not the same thing, is it?" "What do you mean, 'not the same'?" "Well, we don't land airplanes on our roof at home either!" |
| 02-Jul-01 | More from our "Where does a 400-pound
canary sleep?" file:
"San Carlos airport information Zulu ... Bird advisory in effect; 150- foot crane one mile southwest of the airport...." |
| 25-Jun-01 | Sometimes you need more than just
situational awareness...
Approach controller: "Arrow 12345, are you a high- or low-tail Arrow?" N12345: "Uhh ... standby; let me check." |
| 18-Jun-01 | More from our "open-door policy"
file...
Tower: "Airline XXX, it looks like one of your baggage doors is open." Captain (after quickly scanning the FE panel): "Ah, thanks tower, but you must be looking at our APU door." Tower: "Okay, Airline XXX, cleared for takeoff." Captain: "Cleared for takeoff, Airline XXX." Tower, during the takeoff roll: "Airline XXX, ahh ... it appears that your APU is leaking luggage..." |
| 11-Jun-01 | More from our "Don't get wise with
us" file:
A United Airlines 747 captain tries to make light banter with Sydney, Australia, Approach Control ... Captain: "Good morning, Sydney, this is United XXX, we're 50 miles out and have your island in sight ..." Approach: "Roger, United ... you're cleared to circle the island twice, then it's okay to land." |
| 04-Jun-01 | More from our "Those were the
days" file...
Student pilots who can fly "OK" often still get tongue-tied trying to talk on the radio. This student -- after practicing in her mind several times -- decided she would go for it, and called the tower: "... Ready for takeoff, request a straight-out-approach." To which ATC had this to say: "Lady, if you can do it, you can have it!" |
| 28-May-01 | More from our "Citations get no
respect" file:
Overheard on O'Hare frequency inbound: Controller: "Airline 22, slow to 170, you're following a Citation." Airline 22: "Slow to 170, roger ... I thought a Citation was a jet?!" |
| 21-May-01 | More from our "situational
awareness" file:
Navy XXX: "Duluth, we don't have any Jeopardy contestants on board and we were wondering if you could tell us what lake that is that we're seeing." Duluth Approach: "Do you mean that big one off to your right?" Navy XXX: "Yup, that's it." Duluth Approach: "That would be Lake Superior." |
| 14-May-01 | More from our "Einstein was
correct" file...
Several years ago I was flying co-pilot for a crusty old Braniff captain. As we descended towards JFK at the "barber pole," ATC asked us to slow to 250. The captain kept the speed on the "barber pole." When ATC asked us to say our speed, the captain told me to respond with "250." When I did the controller immediately responded, "Roger, slow to 40." |
| 07-May-01 | More from our "A kiss is just a
kiss..." file:
Washington Center (male voice): "N12345 ... ahhh ... disregard." N12345 (male voice): "Were you trying to give 12345 direct Monroe?" Washington Center (after a short pause): "N12345, cleared direct Monroe." N12345: "Direct Monroe, 12345. If I knew who you were, I'd kiss you!" Washington Center (after another short pause): "Well, I'm glad you don't know who I am." |
| 30Apr-01 | More from our "Big-sky Theory"
file...
Omaha Approach: "Southwest 405, expedite your descent though 3,000. Traffic at one o'clock and seven miles; a Citabria northeast-bound at 3,500." SW 405: "Roger, expediting through 3,000. Is the Citabria doing aerobatics?" Omaha Approach: "No, but he will be if you don't expedite below 3,000." |
| 23Apr-01 | More from our "a rose by any other
name" file...
Willard Airport, at Champaign, Ill., while being nowhere near anything, still manages to get hectic at times thanks to the numerous training aircraft from the University of Illinois and the trainees in the tower. On one particularly nice day, the pattern was hopping with numerous aircraft when this gem was heard: Tower: "Archer 46R, right 360 for spacing." 46R: "Ummm, unable." Tower: "46R, you're unable to do a 360?" 46R: "Affirmative; student solo." Tower: "Can you do a turn around a point?" 46R: "Affirmative." Tower: "Okay, see that parking lot? Do turns around a point until I say to stop!" |
| 16Apr-01 | More from our "Who's minding the store?" file: As part of a private pilot ground-school curriculum, I take my students on a tour of the Deer Valley (Ariz.) Control Tower. During one recent tour, the two controllers on duty happened to be women. As one began her introduction, she said, "The first thing we want you to notice is that this is an unmanned facility!" |
| 09-Apr-01 | More from our "We didn't have a say
in the merger; you don't get a say in what's for dinner" file...
It was mealtime during our trip on a small airliner flying over the northwest. "Would you like dinner?" the flight attendant asked the man seated in front of me. "What are my choices?" he asked. "Yes or no," she replied. |
| 02-Apr-01 | More from our "not as obvious as it
seems" file:
The weather was marginal VFR on the ILS approach to Runway 5 at Birmingham, Ala. Just outside the marker I was between layers and had this exchange with approach: Citation xyz: "Approach, be advised that there is a bunch of blue and white balloons just outside the marker." Approach: "What were they?" Citation xyz: "Balloons. You know like someone let go from a wedding reception or something." App: "Oh, balloons. Which way were they headed?" Citation xyz: "Ummm ... downwind." |
| 26-Mar-01 | Cleared for the River Visual Runway 19
approach at Washington National, I landed on the numbers with a stiff
quartering wind. Braking hard, I made the first turnoff.
DCA Tower: "70GD, congratulations." 70GD: "Thanks ... for what?" DCA Tower: "You are the first person to ever make the first turnoff since that runway was built three years ago. Nice looking plane. Is that a new Tiger?" 70GD: "No, it is a 1976 model, but it thinks it's a Maule." |
| 19-Mar-01 | More from our "situational
awareness" file:
The winter winds were howling out of the west as flights got in line for the approach to Detroit's Runway 21R. Approach control asked the Northwest flight ahead of a 757 if they had a readout on the winds at 3,000 feet. The NWA pilot came right back and said, "Hey, we're a DC-9 -- we're lucky to know what state we're flying over!" |
| 12-Mar-01 | More from our "wish we'd said
that" file, courtesy of Denver Departure...
Denver: "Learjet 5234J ... for a vector to Hector, contact the sector director...." |
| 05-Mar-01 | A few months ago at Downtown Airport in
Kansas City (MKC):
Controller: "Archer 1234, your Mode C is not operating." Archer 1234: "I'll recycle it." Archer 1234: "Are you receiving my Mode C now?" Controller: "I have 1,400 indicated." Archer 1234: "I'm showing 1,450." Controller: "That's close enough for government work." Unidentified pilot: "If I could just get you to do my taxes..." |
| 26-Feb-01 | More from our "No purchase required
-- details inside package" file...
Observed recently, stenciled on the engine cowl of a Brand B airliner flown by a major air carrier: "Do not open fan cowl door until leading edge slats are retracted and deactivated. See instructions inside door." |
| 19-Feb-01 | More from our "can someone help me
fly this thing?" file:
A very low-time student was on an early area solo out from Camden Airport, just south of Sydney. Returning to the airfield, the student was obviously a little confused as to how to join the circuit and began circling the airfield at about 2,000 feet. A very nervous voice was then heard on the radio: "Camden Tower, this is Tomahawk ABC, request instructions for descent." Very quickly came ATC's response: "ABC, push the nose down." |
| 12-Feb-01 | More from our "the only reason to fly
four-engine airplanes is because there are no five-engine airplanes"
file:
Back in the early 1960s, Patrick AFB, Fla., was losing its C-54 four- engine transports and some of the crews. The maintenance officer asked one of the C-54 flight engineers if he'd like to move over to the SA- 16, the military designation for Grumman's Albatross amphibian, which were used to support NASA sites on small islands in the Bahamas and made many, many water landings. The flight engineer thought about it for some 30 seconds, and then said, "No sir. That's a four-engine ocean out there." The maintenance officer, himself a SA-16 pilot, replied, "Yeah, but we can taxi all the way." |
| 05-Feb-01 | A few years ago at New York's Westchester
County Airport:
Tower: "Falcon 12345, runway three-four, cleared to land. Traffic is a Tampico on short final." Hot-shot Falcon pilot: (snidely) "What's a Tampico?" Tower: "Single-engine low-wing, sorta like a Cherokee." Hot-shot Falcon pilot: (condescendingly) "Oh! We thought it was a Mexican restaurant." Tower: "United 123, runway three-four, cleared to land. Traffic is a Falcon, one-mile final." United: (with just the right amount of irony) "What's a Falcon?" |
| 29-Jan-01 | One day a few years ago, a very busy Fort
Worth Center controller kept calling a particular aircraft repeatedly,
only to end his transmission with, "...Cessna 123, disregard."
Some of his instructions were quite complicated, but he still ended with
the same directive.
After minutes of busy, almost frantic transmissions between the controller and his charges, a lull in the action finally occurred. After a moment, the controller finally said, "Cessna 123, what are you doing right now?" The obvious reply came right back: "Cessna 123 is disregarding." The not-so-obvious response? "Roger, Cessna 123. Continue." |
| 22-Jan-01 | More from our "I am what I am" file... Heard on the frequency while en route in the northeast U.S.: XYZ airline: "Center, say again that heading?" Center: "I need you on your present heading!!" XYZ airline: "Roger, I am on my present heading." |
| 15-Jan-01 | Several years ago, Australian Airlines
(later to become Qantas Domestic) used a barf bag that doubled --
presumably as an alternate, NOT additional use -- as a film-mailing
envelope for a large photo processing company.
This colourfully printed barf bag encouraged passengers to -- and I swear that I'm not making up this quote -- "Re-live those wonderful memories." |
| 08-Jan-01 | More from our "how bumpy was
it?" file...
A few years ago, when Sabena, the Belgian airline, was still landing in Libreville, Gabon, a flight left in very rough weather toward Kinshasa, Zaire, in west-central Africa. The following conversation was overheard: "Sabena 123, maintain contact with Brazzaville." "Control, I can't even maintain contact with my own seat." |
| 01-Jan-01 | The Aeronautical Information Manual has
been updated for 2001. One of the new updates in Chapter 5 describes GLS:
"'GLS' is the acronym for GNSS Landing System; GNSS is the acronym for Global Navigation Satellite System." Only in aviation and from the FAA is there a need for an acronym to define another acronym. |
| 25-Dec-00 | More from our "the glass is
half-full" file...
We were flying over Madison, Wis., on a nice Sunday headed for lunch and in contact with the exceptionally great people at the Madison TRACON. All of a sudden we heard a voice over the frequency: "Ah, Madison, this is Cessna 12345 ... lost." The cheerful controller came back and asked if the pilot could enter a squawk code; she could and did. The controller then asked her destination, to which she responded, "Madison." A few moments later, the controller came back: "Okay, 12345; you're not lost ... you just haven't found the airport yet." |
| 17-Dec-00 | More from our "who's on first?"
file...
A controller trainee (a.k.a., developmental) was heard to say while training on ground control: "Cessna 12345, are you the Cessna behind the Cessna in front of you?" |
| 11-Dec-00 | More from our "The easiest solutions
are often the best" file...
A light twin had just landed on Runway 29. Missing the last turnoff onto Taxiway Delta, its pilot started to turn left onto Golf when the controller spoke up: Tower: "N1234, that taxiway is approved for single-engine use only." N1234: "That's okay, I'll just shut down one engine." |
| 04-Dec-00 | More from our "can you be more
specific" file:
Center: "Delta XXX, say your Mach speed for in-trail spacing." Delta XXX: "Center, oh, we're really hauling ass." Center: "I don't care what kind of cargo you're carrying, I just want to know how fast you're going." |
| 27-Nov-00 | Heard on the Boeing Field ATIS in the
morning of Nov 23:
"Boeing Field Information Turkey, special observation (all the usual November morning stuff about mist and low overcast). Advise controller on initial contact you have Turkey!" |
| 20-Nov-00 | It seemed that everybody and his brother
arrived back at Moody AFB at the same time. The frequency was cluttered
with directions to breakout and reenter, formations breaking up on the
downwind and other challenges to the over-taxed controller.
At the height of the confusion, a T-38 arrived on initial. Aboard was a crew with keen appreciation for the burden placed on the folks in the tower. Their radio call? "Moody Tower, Sacker 43 on initial. What are my intentions?" |
| 13-Nov-00 | I have a Helio Courier, an STOL airplane
that can fly at very low airspeeds. On approach to my home airport, I was
flying slowly down the 5,000-foot runway to the end where my hangar is.
With a stiff headwind, I probably had a groundspeed below 15 knots.
Finally, an exasperated tower controller said, "Helio Courier on 24 Left, could you please just land and taxi to your hangar? It'd be quicker...." |
| 06-Nov-00 | More from our "What time is it?"
file:
While flying through the Phoenix Class B airspace with a student pilot, a controller called "Opposite direction traffic at twelve o'clock and four miles, four thousand five hundred feet, a Cherokee." The student looked at me with a blank stare and said, "His clock or mine?" |
| 30-Oct-00 | More from our "you're spending too
much time with your computer" file:
We had an accident recently with our Mooney and went out with fellow pilots one Sunday to take some additional photos. Having taken the digital photos needed, one pilot commented, "It's not so bad. Nothing Photoshop can't fix." |
| 23-Oct-00 | More from our "controller vs.
captain" file...
Controller to Air France Airbus: "Please confirm whether you are an A330 or A340." Air France Airbus: "We are senior pilots. We only fly the A340." Controller: "In that case, captain, please fire up your other two engines and get to the altitude and speed that I assigned to you." |
| 16-Oct-00 | More from our "reality check"
file:
While I was waiting for ground control to give me a taxi clearance, I overheard the following exchange: N12345: "Boeing ground, N12345. Can you give me a radio check?" BFI Ground: "You sound like you're calling from a tin can." N12345: "We *are* calling from a tin can..." |
| 09-Oct-00 | More from our "the simplest solution
is often the best" file...
Cessna XXXX: "Tower, every time I turn crosswind, I have trouble receiving you. No matter which runway I'm on I get the same thing. Have you any idea or suggestion what I might do to improve the situation?" Tower: "I'll check with the tower chief." (Delay) Tower: "Cessna XXXX, the tower chief suggests you not turn crosswind." |
| 02-Oct-00 | The local weather was 1,700 feet
broken-to-overcast with eight miles visibility underneath, an improvement
from the 800 overcast that had prevailed most of the morning. As I motored
along above the clouds I heard the following:
Cessna XXX: "Approach, this is Cessna XXX, we need some help getting down." Approach: "Can you fly IFR?" Cessna XXX: "Nope." Approach: "Are you VFR right now?" Cessna XXX: "Nope." Protracted silence. Approach: "Can you hold a heading and altitude?" Cessna XXX: "No problemo." Approach: "Stay on your current heading and altitude until you reach VFR conditions." Cessna XXX: "Roger." Approach: "When you get to VFR, let's talk." Cessna XXX: "About what?" Approach: "I am sure we can think of something." |
| 25-Sep-00 | More from our "Helpful hints from the
tower" file:
Cessna N1234: "234 going around." Tower: "Roger, report left downwind." Cessna N1234: "Roger." Tower: "234, I think I know why you had to go around." Cessna N1234: "Oh? Why?" Tower: "Because your landing gear isn't long enough to land from that altitude." |
| 18-Sep-00 | More from our "Eye of the
beholder" file...
Some local flying club students were visiting the tower for the first time and being shown all the equipment, radar screens, radios, etc., by the two controllers on duty. One of the students asked, "Have you ever had a real live emergency?" The controllers thought for a minute and then one replied, "Well yeah, we did run out of coffee once...." |
| 11-Sep-00 | ...From our "waking the dead
file"...
Aerodrome Information for Arriving Aircraft at Manchester Barton: "For noise abatement, pilots are requested to avoid flying low over the cemetery to the northeast of the aerodrome." |
| 04-Sep-00 | ...From our "organizational
chart" file:
An airliner was suffering through a severe thunderstorm. As the passengers were being bounced around by the turbulence a young woman turned to a priest sitting next to her and with a nervous laugh asked, "Father, you're a man of God, can't you do something about this storm?" To which he replied, "Lady, I'm in sales, not management." |
| 28-Aug-00 | ...From our "Out of the mouths of
babes" file:
Recently my three-year-old son and I went to ride with a friend in our 182 while he practiced his landings. After seven or eight landings we decided to make a full stop and get a bite to eat at the airport diner. Over dinner my son asked, "Why were we taking off and landing so many times?" I replied, "John was practicing his landings." My son then inquired, "Why was he practicing BUMPY landings?" |
| 21-Aug-00 | From our "What's holding us up?"
file:
While aboard AA 1157 from BUF to ORD, a woman sitting next to a loyal AVweb reader had the following conversation with the flight attendant: Passenger: "Are we in a holding pattern?" Flight Attendant: (Turns around and looks out the window) "No, we're still moving." |
| 14-Aug-00 | We were on a training flight to practice
touch and go landings at a particularly windy airport but the student was
having a hard time. While on a crosswind leg, the student kept fighting
for control of the plane's direction. Finally, the exasperated instructor
asked, "Where's the crab, where's the crab?"
The frustrated student answered, "Sounds like he is right next to me." |
| 07-Aug-00 | Heard at the Gwinnett County (Ga.) - Briscoe Field
Airport (LZU), a couple of years ago: Tower: "Cessna 123, you have your traffic on final yet?" Cessna 123: "Ugh, still looking." Tower: "He's on short final, kind of high, still trying to shovel some air out from under his wings." |
| 24-Jul-00 | From our "You've been off the line for a while,
haven't you?" file... Shortly after boarding a United Airlines flight from Denver to Phoenix, I listened to the following exchange over the ATC channel of the plane's audio system after pushing back from the gate: Denver Ground: "United xxx, the good news is you are clear to taxi to Runway 16." United xxx: "Uhh, thanks ... but what's the bad news?" Denver Ground: "I don't have any bad news right now but the sooner you get going the less chance there will be of my finding any." |
| 17-Jul-00 | Peoria, Ill., 1990. Thunderstorms south of the
airport... PIA: "TWA xxx, how's the ride?" TWA xxx: "It's rougher than burlap underwear up here." PIA, after a short pause to catch a breath: "Would you classify that as light, moderate, or severe chafing?" |
| 10-Jul-00 | From our "Eye of the beholder" file... The student pilot was too high on his approach so he decided to use a slip to lose some extra altitude. But, being not very experienced, the maneuver lacked somewhat in effectiveness. The instructor, a bit surprised seeing such execution, asked his student, "What was that?!" The student, a bit embarrassed by the tone in the instructor's voice, responded, "Well, it was a slip...." The instructor, unconvinced, responded, "No, that wasn't a slip, it was an intentional loss of control." |
| 03-Jul-00 | It was a foggy, busy "rush-hour" morning at
LaGuardia. A US Air flight was taxiing to the active when they made a wrong turn and came
nose-to-nose with a United 727. The irate ground controller (a woman) lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming and shouting on the ground control frequency. She ended her tirade with, "You can expect progressive taxi instructions in about a half hour, and I want you to go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you. You got that, US Air?" The humbled crew responded: "Yes Ma'am." The frequency went terribly silent, and no one wanted to engage the irate ground controller in her current state. Finally, after what appeared to be an eternity, an unknown captain from another airline, came up on the frequency. "Wasn't I married to you, once?" he asked. |
| 26-Jun-00 | From our "Is it fixed yet?" file... After about an hour of ground school on aircraft systems and what instruments would be affected by various failures, the student began a thorough pre-flight inspection before embarking on her first bout with "partial-panel" work. As the student buckled herself into the left seat, the instructor said, "Hmmm, I wonder what's going to fail first?" The student thought for a millisecond before replying, "Uhhh, the pilot?" |
| 19-Jun-00 | From our "Walking and chewing gum" file... Approach: UPS XXX, expedite descent through four thousand and slow to one-seventy knots. UPS XXX: UPS XXX can slow or descend, but not at the same time. Approach: Did you just make that up or did you win that in your last contract? UPS XXX: UPS XXX slowing and descending! |
| 12-Jun-00 | Back in the days before altitude alerters were
mandatory, but with altitude reporting installed, a crew was climbing their BAC 1-11 up to
an assigned altitude of 17,000 feet. At about 17,700 feet, the pilot flying noticed the
inadvertent altitude bust and started back down towards 17,000. Just as he was getting ready to level off, ATC called: "NXXXXX, say your altitude." The fast-thinking captain replied, "Just passing through 17,000." Whereupon the faster-thinking controller asked, "Which way?" |
| 05-Jun-00 | Approaching Philadelphia some years ago, Approach
Control warned me of geese in my area. My not-so-smart question was, "How can you
tell?" The controller's smarter answer? "They're squawking." |
| 29-May-00 | From our "cause and effect" file... NOTAM received one winter night at Boston ARTCC: "3B1 (Greenville ME) rwy 14-32 BRAN nil rptd by vehicle" NOTAM received 10 seconds later: "3B1 arpt clsd due vehicle accident 14-32" |
| 22-May-00 | On a recent trip from BJC to CMA in the Salt Lake
Center's airspace, center was trying to raise Delta Air Lines flight xxx: ZSL (numerous times): "Delta xxx, Salt Lake Center..." Finally, Delta xxx answered: "Salt Lake, Delta xxx. Sorry about that. We were in the back watching the movie." Unknown: "What's playin'?" Delta xxx: "Lost in space." |
| 15-May-00 | This happened in 1979. I was working the ground control
position at Patrick AFB, Fla. A flight of two A-4s was parked on the north ramp, preparing to return to Navy JAX. Lead checked in and requested his clearance be put on request. I said, "Clearance on request and monitor ATIS 273.5 prior to taxi." When the flight was ready to taxi he said, "We tried contacting ATIS but couldn't get a word in edgewise." |
| 08-May-00 | From our "Are we there yet?" file: While flying from SLC to SMO recently a loyal AVweb reader overheard this exchange: Center: "United XXX please say winds aloft." UAL XXX: "260 at 105 knots." Center: "Okay, I just wanted to make certain that you had head winds and did not have an engine shut down." |
| 30-Apr-00 | From our "Where do you want to be today?"
file... As I was taxiing at Penticton airport in British Columbia I overheard the following: C-Gxxx: "Request taxi clearance to Kelowna." Ground: "Cessna Gxxx, we would prefer if you flew there." C-Gxxx: "Then we would request taxi clearance to the active." |
| 24-Apr-00 | From our "We aim to please" file: While in the traffic pattern practicing touch and goes at Brown Airport in San Diego, a student requested the option from the tower controller. Her response: "Sure. Which option would you like?" |
| 17-Apr-00 | This is job dedication... Late one dark and cloudy night I was flying northward across central California. As Bakersfield Approach handed me back to LA Center the controller said, "You are about to leave my airspace and the known world." |
| 10-Apr-00 | From our "the devil made me do it" file... "It is not necessarily impossible for human beings to fly, but it so happens that God didn't give them the knowledge of how to do it. It follows therefore, that anyone who claims he can fly must have sought the aid of the devil. To attempt to fly is therefore sinful." -- Roger Bacon, a 13th-century philosopher |
| 03-Apr-00 | From our "can you tell us more" file: Seen on an aircraft insurance quote request: "Description of loss: Hard landing caused by altitude change." |
| 27-Mar-00 | From our "eye of the beholder" file... Last Friday I had the pleasure of taking a co-worker for a ride in a Cessna 152 after a very long workweek. She had never flown in a general aviation aircraft before, was curious about everything, and made some interesting observations that those of us who are around light planes regularly don't think about any more. I made my way through the preflight inspection, called "Clear!" and the engine growled to life. "Sounds like a lawn mower," my companion observed. She obviously mistook my look of interest in her perspective as one of being insulted. "Well, a big one," she said. |
| 20-Mar-00 | My friend, an ex-Marine Aviator, wanted to show off his
new twin-engine plane. I was riding along as he put it through its paces. Suddenly, we
were caught in a violent thunderstorm, with lightning crashing all around us. Next, we
lost the radio and most of the instruments. As we were being tossed around in the sky, George said, "Uh-oh!" Fearing the worst, I asked, "What's wrong now?" George replied, "I got the hiccups. Do something to scare me." |
| 13-Mar-00 | Apparently, an owner of an Aztec in Africa had an engine
problem in some rather remote location and was considering trying to take off and fly the airplane on one engine to a maintenance base. The message he sent to Piper's engineering department ended with the question, "How long will it take to take off on one engine?" This request for information made its rounds within engineering until it got to the Aztec project engineer who replied, "Ask him if he wants that in miles or months." |
| 06-Mar-00 | A Delta Air Lines jet was traversing Arizona on a clear
day. The copilot was bombarding passengers with remarks about landmarks over the PA
system. "Coming up on the right side of our cabin, you can see Meteor Crater. A major tourist attraction in northern Arizona, it was formed when a lump of nickel and iron weighing 300,000 tons, 150 feet across, struck the earth at 40,000 miles an hour, scattering white-hot debris for miles in every direction. The hole measures nearly a mile across and is 570 feet deep." From the cabin, a passenger was heard to exclaim: "Wow! It just missed the highway!" |
| 28-Feb-00 | From our Bonanza-envy file... A Bonanza landed at my home airport some years ago with the leading edge of the left wing bashed in from hitting a goose in flight. A remark from a Cessna driver was overheard: "If he'd been flying a high-wing airplane, he'd have missed it." |
| 21-Feb-00 | From our "we can only afford one landing
today" file... While trying to work touch-and-goes with a student in the traffic pattern at Daggett Airport, we were acutely aware of a pair of regional airline Fokker jets practicing the VOR approach to an intersecting runway. Each time they executed a missed approach, but we would hold short just in case they landed. Finally, I keyed the mic and asked them if they were ever going to land. Their curt response: "Negative, the company said they don't mind buying the gas, but we have to buy our own tires." |
| 14-Feb-00 | Seen in an FAA Air Traffic Controllers publication about
15 years ago: ATCT: Bonanza 1234 cleared to land Runway 15; be advised the REIL lights are out of service. Bonanza 1234: Roger, cleared to land; are the artificial lights working? |
| 07-Feb-00 | From our "Are you sure you've done this
before?" file... The weather was dropping rapidly and DCA (Washington National) was the only field still VFR, so they got a flood of diversions. Then they went from 2,000/5 to 600/1, so it was a scramble to get everyone on the ILS. One pilot didn't seem very familiar with the concept of the ILS, which resulted in the following exchange: DCA TRACON: Nxxx, turn to 020 to intercept the localizer; you went right through it. Nxxx: Roger. DCA TRACON: Nxxx, do you have an ILS receiver? Nxxx: Roger. DCA TRACON: Is it turned on? |
| 31-Jan-00 | Heard on the frequency while going into Newark, N.J.
(EWR) a while back: Big jet: "Left to 120, and if it helps we've got the field." NY TRACON: "Roger. Let me know when you get the other 12 guys ahead of you in sight." |
| 24-Jan-00 | From our "you can't get there from here" file The weather in Oregon has been seasonal. Rain for days, and now snow starting yesterday. Freezing down to 2000 feet. I'm based at the Illinois Valley Airport (3S4), Cave Junction, Ore., surrounded by the beautiful Siskiyou Mountains. I've been waiting to ferry a PA-32 to southern California. Yesterday morning I called Flight Service, and asked for an outlook briefing to get over the Siskiyous southbound. The FSS Specialist asked, "and what month are you planning to depart?" There's still a few good guys left, at least in Flight Service! |
| 17-Jan-00 | From our "It's Not Polite To Point" file... Overheard recently on the ground control frequency at Midway Airport (MDW) in Chicago: Vanguard XXX: "Midway Ground, Vanguard XXX push from gate YY with Whiskey." MDW Ground: "Vanguard XXX, push back approved; point your nose toward the city." Vanguard 123: "Vanguard 123, wilco." Then, a couple of minutes later: MDW Ground: "Vanguard XXX, just which city did you think I was talking about?" |
| 10-Jan-00 | From our "We really mean it this time..."
file: This happened at the Boston ARTCC where I work. The controller noticed that an air carrier jet was not going to make the 11,000-foot crossing restriction that is required by Providence Approach. As the controller was issuing the "expedite" clearance to get him down, he noticed the jet also had head-on traffic at 15,000. His clearance went like this: "Flight XXX, expedite your descent to 11,000, but REALLY expedite through 14,000." |
| 03-Jan-00 | "We have your request..." Airline captain to clearance delivery: "xxx1184 to BOS, and we're a DC9 today." Clearance delivery: "Roger cleared to BOS via ... and we'll change the B737 to a DC9." Unidentified pilot: "Clearance, while you're at it, could you change this PA28 to a Learjet?" |
| 27-Dec-99 | It's all in your point of view: On the Friday after Thanksgiving it was very foggy in Billings, Montana. The RVR was between 800 and 1,400 feet all morning. Delta, NWA and UAL flights were waiting for departure and on-frequency requesting frequent updates about the RVR and the overall weather picture. One captain asked if any dramatic improvement was expected. I responded, "I don't think the weather's going to change much, but I expect a dramatic improvement in about an hour ... when my shift ends." |
| 20-Dec-99 | THE TWELVE (Flying) DAYS OF CHRISTMAS On the first day of Christmas, my C-F-I gave to me... A regulation 91.3; A two-hour preflight; Three full stalls; Four short approaches; FIVE FORCED LANDINGS! Six flights computing; Seven route re-thinkings; Eight in-flight briefings; Nine charts a-folding; Ten minutes holding; Eleven towers talking; and, Twelve-hundred squawking. |
| 13-Dec-99 | From our "local procedures" file: At Victoria we have a reporting point, a hotel, which is called "The Waddling Dog". One day recently, an American pilot called the tower, reporting, "Bonanza 4567Y, Discovery Island, landing." The tower controller responded, "Roger 67Y, call the Waddling Dog on 119.7 for left base 09." The American acknowledged with, "Roger that, and, uh, we're over the nudist colony at this time." The controller, completely taken in, said, "WHERE IS THAT?" "You first," the American laconically responded. |
| 06-Dec-99 | From our "tell it like it is" file... I'm a corporate pilot with a large interest in warbirds and antiques. On a recent flight into Wharton, Texas, I asked the senior gentleman at the FBO if there were any antiques or warbirds on the field. He smiled and quickly replied ... "Just me!" |
| 29-Nov-99 | This exchange took place shortly after this year's
Edwards AFB airshow. Controller to F-117 stealth fighter: "Traffic is an F-16, two o'clock, 13 miles, southbound, climbing thru 6,000." F-117 pilot: "Acquired and tracking..." Controller to F-16: "Traffic is an F-117, two o'oclock, 12 miles, opposite direction, level 5." F-16 pilot: "Roger, tracking..." F-117 pilot (without missing a beat and in a monotone): "Bull." |
| 22-Nov-99 | This week's Short Final comes courtesy of the BBC: "Israeli premier Ehud Barak escaped unhurt when a jet carrying him and his party was in collision with a baggage truck on the tarmac at Manchester airport. The Israeli Air Force Boeing 707 was maneuvering during a refueling stop when the accident happened late on Thursday night. "Mr. Barak's senior policy adviser, Danny Yatom said: 'It is good that it happened on the ground and not in the air.'" |
| 15-Nov-99 | Heard on the heavily-congested O'Hare clearance delivery
frequency during the Monday morning outbound rush: Aircraft: "O'Hare Clearance, November [loud squeal] #@%^&~!..." Clearance: "General aviation aircraft calling clearance, say your call sign and go ahead with your request." Aircraft: "This is November [loud squeal] #@%^&~!...at Signature for clearance." Clearance: "All aircraft standby; November aircraft calling for clearance, say again your call sign." Aircraft: "This is November [loud squeal] #@%^&~!...clearance." Clearance: "November aircraft at Signature, I cannot understand your number, so I'm going to call you November Niner Niner Bravo ... is that okay with you?" Aircraft: "Affirmative." Clearance: "Okay then, November 99 Bravo, what can I do for you." Aircraft: "This is November 99 Bravo at Signature, ready to copy IFR clearance to Toledo." Clearance: "Roger, stand by." (after a brief pause...) Clearance: "November 99 Bravo, I can't seem to find your clearance. Did you file a flight plan?" [Thanks to "The NATCA Voice" for this gem.] |
| 08-Nov-99 | A friend of mine works for Mesaba and relates a radio
call he heard at MSP. A female Northwest Airlines cockpit crewmember had called several
times for push-back clearance, and after receiving the okay, called back and canceled. Her
last request went something like this: NW123: Ground control, NW123 ready for push back, again. Ground Control: Are you sure? NW123: Well, I am a female and can change my mind at any moment. Ground Control (laughing): Cleared to push back. |
| 01-Nov-99 | From our "is it soup yet?" file... NY Center: USAir 312, what is your ride like? USAir 312: Oh man, I got whitecaps in my coffee! NY Center: American 435, what's your ride like? American 435: Dunno, we haven't been fed yet... |
| 25-Oct-99 | From our "on the gauges" file... I had stopped my car at a red light and was waiting for the signal to change when I noticed a person crossing on the green and reading a book at the same time. Halfway across the street, the pedestrian walked right into another automobile that had stopped too far into the crosswalk. Startled but not hurt, he closed his "Instrument Flying Handbook" and then walked around the car. |
| 18-Oct-99 | From our "unanswerable questions" file... This (reportedly) really happened at a nontowered airport in Northern California. The pilot of a Cessna 180 on amphibious floats, en route from Kentucky to Alaska, called for an airport advisory, and the Unicom operator issued the following: "Wind calm. No reported traffic. Use runway 32 or 14, your choice." The 180 pilot replied, "Which runway is longer?" |
| 11-Oct-99 | From our "Euphemisms for TCAS" file: On the final leg of a trip from Chicago to Ohio University, KUNI, I turned south in my C172 over APE VOR and shortly thereafter heard Columbus Approach call a bizjet at 8000 inbound to CMH: Approach: "Bizjet 123, traffic one o'clock, 7000, a Cessna 172 southbound." Bizjet 123: "Roger, we got him on The Discovery Channel." Approach: "Cessna 89L, traffic eleven o'clock, 8000, a bizjet." Cessna 89L: "Negative contact, but then we don't have The Discovery Channel." With no hesitation at all, the bizjet pilot keyed his mic and said -- in the slowest, deepest, most deliberate announcer-like voice he could muster -- "CALL YOUR CABLE OPERATOR." |
| 04-Oct-99 | I'm a flight instructor, and was teaching a brand new
student how to taxi the airplane. On initial call-up, I said, "Ground, Nxxx with
ATIS, ready to taxi to active, will be doing taxi practice." The controller suggested we taxi all the way down to the inactive area, but that was more than we wanted, so I said, "No thanks, we're ready to taxi to the active ... I just wanted to warn you that we may be slow and crooked." ATC's comeback: "Well, why don't you just let the student taxi?" |
| 27-Sep-99 | From our "student pilots say the darnedest
things" file... Instructor (briefing student for his first dual cross-country): "What would you do if I fell unconscious halfway through the trip?" Student: "Uh, let's see ... complete the flight, and log it as half dual and half solo?" |
| 20-Sep-99 | From our "Heard On The Frequency" department: It was a busy session one day several years ago when a flight slopped through and paralleled the localizer, but was not correcting back. The controller's comment? "Hughes Air 520, you're paralyzing the localator; turn left and intercept." |
| 13-Sep-99 | The scene: A rare quiet time at the Prescott, Ariz.,
airport. A nicely waxed Cessna 150 with its original factory paint job is taxiing out for
takeoff behind a beautifully painted Kitfox. Ground Control: "Kitfox 1234, Prescott Ground. Nice stripes on your left wing." Kitfox: "Prescott Ground, Kitfox 1234. Thanks, it was my wife's idea." Cessna 150: "Uh, Prescott Ground, Cessna 5678. Any kind words about my 30-year-old paint job? I'm feeling just a little neglected down here." Ground Control: "Cessna 5678, Prescott Ground. That sure is a nice 30- year-old paint job, sir." Cessna 150: "Prescott Ground, Cessna 5678. Thanks, it was my wife's idea." |
| 06-Sep-99 | Several times a week I drive by the Aurora, Ill.,
airport with one or both of my twin daughters. On one night as we drove by fairly late, my
daughter Jaime noticed that the runway lights were on. "Dad," she said, "I thought you said the airport was closed at night." I was surprised at her notice of that bit of trivia, and answered, "Yes, that's right, it closed about an hour ago." "Then why are the lights still on?" she queried. I explained that the airport was equipped with pilot-controlled lighting, and that if the pilot clicks the mic button a few times in quick succession, the lights come on. Jaime digested this information for a moment, and then asked, "Is that like a 'Clapper' for old pilots?" |
| 30-Aug-99 | From our "now that you mention it" file... I took my nine-year-old to the airport to see my flight instructor's Waco. Being the sharp future aviator that he is, my son examined the classic open-cockpit biplane from spinner to tailwheel, and then asked, "Dad, is the Waco IFR-rated?" "Sure, son," I replied, "you can fly a Waco IFR." He digested that for a few moments with a puzzled expression, then followed up with this stumper: "Well, when you fly it IFR, how do you keep the clouds out of your mouth?" |
| 23-Aug-99 | I am a flight instructor at a large flight school where
my girlfriend is a student. She is preparing for her private checkride, so every once in a
while I quiz her. She was having difficulty remembering when a pilot needs a complex endorsement, a high-performance endorsement, and a type rating. I asked her if I could be a copilot on a Boeing 747. She looked at me with a puzzled expression and said, "Let's see ... ummm ... how many horsepower does it have?" |
| 16-Aug-99 | Sometimes pilots need to consult a higher authority: It's the day of my first solo flight, and the only member of my family who could show up to watch is my grandmother. Gramma is no stranger to aviation -- her first husband was a B-26 pilot who was shot down in WWII. So I'm out doing my solo, and Gramma is on the porch at the flight school, surrounded by all the CFIs and students. The crowd on the porch is discussing whether or not the weather is going to stay good enough for cross-country flying, as there are many towering cumulus clouds building. They'd consulted the NEXRAD in the school's weather room. They'd called the FSS. They'd solicited PIREPs from returning pilots. Gramma, hearing all this, decides to put her opinion into the mix. "It's not going to rain," she announces. "My bones aren't hurting." Whereupon all the pilots on the porch immediately decide to go flying. |
| 09-Aug-99 | From our "how to pass the time on those long
cross-countries" file... An RV-6 owner attended a breakfast fly-in, and put the airplane on the static display line. A three-year-old hopped up on the wing, pointed to the yoke-mounted Lowrance AirMap 300 handheld GPS, and said: "Look, Ma ... he's got a Gameboy!" |
| 26-Jul-99 | From our "Things to do at the gate" file: While boarding a coast-to-coast flight with his two boys, a pilot asked the captain if he could show the kids where Dad worked. The captain said, "Sure, come on in." He and the F/O demo'd all the bells and whistles for the kids and then got back to work. The kids watched as the captain pulled out his charts and began to highlight the planned route. The seven-year-old was amazed by this and asked quietly, "Dad, what's he doing?" Before Dad could respond, his nine-year-old brother answered, "What do you think he's doing? He's coloring." |
| 19-Jul-99 | The D-ATIS at Philadelphia International Airport has
become somewhat infamous for ending with -- how shall we put it? -- "non-standard phraseology." One day, when the weather was awful and departing aircraft were lucky to have a flow-control delay of just two or three hours, the monotone computer-generated voice went through the usual weather, runway info and NOTAMS, then finished up with: "Not going anywhere for awhile? Grab a Snickers bar." On another day, at the end of the usual litany, the mechanical voice could be heard to say: "One turn in a hold: $2,000. One go-around: $4,000. Spending a day with your copilot: priceless. Advise you have Yankee." |
| 12-Jul-99 | From our "Situational Awareness" file... A wife reports that her husband, an airline pilot, often has difficulty locating items around the house. One day he asked where the salt was. Annoyed, the wife responded, "How on earth can you find Detroit at night in a blizzard, but you can't find the salt in your own kitchen?" "Well, darling," he replied, "they don't move Detroit." |
| 05-Jul-99 | From our "Size Counts" file: Shortly after just landing at a big international airport in his Cessna 150, our hero strolls into the busy airport cafeteria for a bite to eat. He finds an empty table by the window to keep an eye on the airport comings and goings. Shortly thereafter, a striking woman walks up and asks to share his table. Naturally, he invites her to sit down. After several minutes of small talk, the woman asks if he is a pilot. He responds, "Why, yes, I am -- I fly a C-150." Knowing next to nothing about airplanes, she asks him what a C-150 is. The pilot looks out the window and spots a C-130 Hercules taxing out for takeoff. Pointing to it, he tells his companion, "See that plane over there? That is a C-130. I fly a C-150!" |
| 28-Jun-99 | A pilot friend recently took his 5-year-old son for the
boy's first airplane flight, in a Cessna 172. The little passenger, although serious
during the flight, thoroughly enjoyed the brief sightseeing tour over some local
landmarks. When they returned home, the boy's grandmother asked him what part of the flight he liked best. He replied, "The rubber snakes they put on the plane to keep the birds away." |
| 21-Jun-99 | We wonder how many of today's captains started this
way... When I told my niece that I had built a kitplane and was flying it, she asked, "May I come with you one day?" Hoping for a wonderful line on how nice the earth looks from above or something of the kind, I replied, "Sure, but WHY do you want to come fly with me?" Her answer: "To get a free orange juice on board." |
| 14-Jun-99 | Sometimes it pays to know the local fixes, as this
reader relates. When departing Oakland, Calif., last week I asked the controller for the "bay tour," a flight over the bay, the Golden Gate Bridge, etc. I was instructed to "fly over and follow the Nimitz." After two calls from controllers to again follow the Nimitz, I confessed that I couldn't find the Nimitz. The controller responded that the Nimitz Freeway was off my right wing. That explained it: I had been looking for the aircraft carrier. |
| 07-Jun-99 | Kids, ya gotta love 'em! From our "out of the
mouths of babes" file... ** One 10-year-old girl in a crowd of Young Eagles wanted to look at the aircraft's instrument panel. While standing in awe, she turned to her classmates and said, "If we want to be pilots, we are going to have to stay in school a long time. Do you see all these clocks up here?" ** We had just completed a flight in a commercial airliner from Chicago to Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The aircraft had taxied to the gate and the engines shut down. Everyone in the now-quiet aircraft was waiting for the seatbelt light to extinguish when my 4-year-old brother's voice called out, "But, Dad! We didn't drop any bombs!" ** When told that his mother had just soloed a sailplane, our son's impertinent reply was, "I knew she was taking lessons, but I didn't think she was learning anything." |
| 31-May-99 | Spotted on an aircraft insurance claim form... "Description of loss: Hard landing caused by altitude change." |
| 24-May-99 | This note to the AVweb "Help Desk" gave us a
bittersweet chuckle: Please unsubscribe AVweb and AVflash for this email address, as the pilot left the copilot/navigator for his silicone-enhanced, bleached-blonde ex-wife who has no interest whatsoever in flying. Go figure!!! |
| 17-May-99 | When even your best isn't good enough: I was demonstrating an ILS to a former Private Pilot student while my wife was in the back seat. For once, thanks to calm air, I nailed it perfectly. The only instrument with a moving needle on the entire panel was the altimeter. My wife asked what was guiding me to the runway. I pointed to the CDI and GS needles and told her how I get lateral and vertical guidance from them. "How can you get any guidance from those?" she asked, obviously puzzled. "They're not moving!" |
| 10-May-99 | Another good "Rule of Thumb" overheard at this
year's Sun 'n Fun: Cessna 123: Tower, I have a load of Young Eagles on board. Do you have any idea how long I should keep them up here? Tower: Cessna 123, ahhh, until the second one throws up ... that should just about do it. |
| 03-May-99 | From our "more than we really wanted to know"
file... While working as a volunteer at our local Boy Scout Council office, one of the professional staff -- who was wearing street clothes instead of her usual uniform -- was talking about the International Phonetic Alphabet. She said that she had learned it some years ago and proceeded to recite it. "Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta..." But, when she got to the letter "U," she stumbled and asked for help. I offered a hint: "What aren't you wearing today?" "Underwear?" she replied. |
| 26-Apr-99 | Overheard in Lakeland, two pilots were comparing notes
on their flight times to get to Sun 'n Fun. Lamenting the fact that he'd found a fuel stop
necessary on the way to the airshow, one of the airmen said that he was hopeful that he
would be able to make it home nonstop. In all seriousness, he justified his reasoning to
his friend thusly: "Well, I'll pick up an hour on the way back because of the time change." |
| 19-Apr-99 | Ground: "12 Alpha, turn right on Hotel, taxi to
parking. Bear left, disabled aircraft on the right." 12 Alpha: "Roger, I have the disabled aircraft in sight, looking for the bear." |
| 12-Apr-99 | From our "Maneuvers Not Covered By The PTS"
file... I was recently supervising a student on his first solo. Attentively listening to him on a handheld radio, I heard his last radio transmission before completing the successful solo: "Frederick Traffic, Cessna 39A simulated instructor failure, runway 5." |
| 05-Apr-99 | It was very hot that day -- over 100 degrees Fahrenheit
-- as it usually is in the southern California desert during the summer. I was feverishly
calculating density altitude and working out my weight-and-balance to decide how much fuel
I could take on, when I noticed a Piper Navajo on the ramp. It had just been topped it off
with fuel, and I could see that it was about to be filled full of passengers. As a new pilot, I was intrigued by the apparent capabilities of this aircraft. "It's so hot today, how can you fill your airplane like that?" I asked the Navajo pilot. With the calm and commanding voice of an experienced PIC, he replied, "It's okay, we have air conditioning." |
| 29-Mar-99 | The millennium bug is a hot topic these days, both for
fun and profit. We got a chuckle when we visited Sensenich Propeller's web site and saw
the following: "The Home of Y2K Compliant Propellers" |
| 22-Mar-99 | From our "Orville and Wilbur would turn over in
their graves" file... When F-117 test pilot Dave Ferguson first saw the highly faceted, unconventional, "slab-sided" Nighthawk, he asked Dick Cantrell, the program's Chief Aerodynamicist, how airframe ice encrustation might affect the 117A's aerodynamics. Cantrell replied, "Probably improve it." (From the forthcoming book "F-117 Nighthawk" by Paul Crickmore, MBI Publishing, coming July 1999.) |
| 15-Mar-99 | From our "So THATS what its for!"
file, we thought we'd share this insightful tidbit from this week's "Dateline
NBC" expose on the Boeing 737 rudder problem: RUDDER STEERS THE PLANE The rudder is the vertical panel attached to the tail that steers the plane left or right. Its moved by pedals in the cockpit. The pilot pushes the right rudder pedal, the plane turns right. He pushes the left rudder pedal, it turns left. |
| 08-Mar-99 | From our "We certainly HOPE so" file... Pilot: Montgomery County radio, could you give us the current weather at College Station? FSS: Currently they're carrying a 500-foot broken ceiling, winds out of the northeast at 10 to 15, visibility 8, and the altimeter 29.85. Pilot: Copy that. Is that 500-foot ceiling due to clouds? |
| 01-Mar-99 | Another gem from our "how's that again?" file: One of the secretaries at our corporate offices called down the other day to make sure that all was set for an upcoming flight on our company aircraft, checking the airport, flight time, and which H.B.O. we would be using... |
| 22-Feb-99 | The Pilot's Prayer Oh controller, who sits in tower Hallowed be thy sector. Thy traffic come, thy instructions be done On the ground as they are in the air. Give us this day our radar vectors, And forgive us our Class B incursions As we forgive those who cut us off on final. And lead us not into adverse weather, But deliver us our clearances. |
| 15-Feb-99 | As reported above, Veep Al Gore's delayed departure from
ALB Friday night snarled air traffic in the Northeast. After yet another revised EFC, ATC queried one hardy soul on his status: ALB Approach: "Commuter 5678, can you hold out for another half hour or so?" Commuter 5678: "Yes sir, fuel is not a problem. But I should advise you that about half my passengers have now turned Republican." |
| 08-Feb-99 | From our "How's that again?" file: The following was reported to be an actual boarding announcement made by a gate agent in MIA in December. "Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your patience, we are ready to begin boarding flight 1234 with service from Miami to Atlanta. Due to a weight problem with the aircraft, we are going to limit you to one piece of carry-on luggage. Any additional items will have to be checked." |
| 01-Feb-99 | A loyal reader shared this with us: When my primary instructor took me out for my first "demo" ride, he had me in the left seat and told me how to steer with my feet and sit on my hands to avoid "steering" the ailerons. "How do I know how fast to taxi?" I asked anxiously. "At your stage in training," my CFI replied, "a good rule-of-thumb is not to taxi any faster than you want to run into something." (The AVweb staff thinks this is a pretty good rule for pilots of ANY experience level!) |
| 25-Jan-99 |