Poll: Do You Consider See and Avoid Good Enough?


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  1. It should be good enough for VFR-VFR avoidance in uncontrolled airspace, maybe for slow IFR traffic vs VFR traffic, but anything involving faster airplanes should be separated from all other traffic. Pilots flying IFR need some head-down time to check their track on instruments and the faster the airplane and the more checklists it needs, the longer they will be unable to scan for traffic. Overall safety could be improved at comparatively little cost by mandating a system like FLARM (https://flarm.com) for all airplanes. It is available in a portable version which won’t break the bank at about 2200$ and can receive ADS-B information to provide traffic information on FLARM and ADS-B-out equipped A/C.

    • More “relatively” cheap equipment to install ? Nice one bro. Until the computer flies all the planes you’ll be wanting eyeballs. Can I forego the vision exam if I have this junk installed already – mkay…thought so. Stop it with the mandates already. You sound like a politician.

  2. For me “It is in some places, but not in others.”

    I live in Iowa where outside of the Class C areas which are controlled anyway “see and avoid usually is fine”. Usually as nothing is perfect. One time I was on a flight review with an instructor and we departed a rural airport got quite a ways out from it and here comes a Piper Cherokee zinging by right in front of us. This would have been a T-Bone and statistics for all involved would we have hit. Myself, my instructor, nor the other pilot (he was reading a sectional, yes it was that close) did not “see and avoid”. Luck or guardian angel did the work that day.

    Prior to moving back to Iowa Camarillo CA was home base. If you were heading Northwest “see and avoid” was about like Iowa as after Santa Barbara it was ranches and dessert. Flying Southeast into the LA basin you could skirt around the Class B. It was always with VFR advisories for me (flight following in the old days). Controllers always seemed willing to work you into their work load.

    Bottom line is still the same advice I received early on from an instructor years ago. Look out the window! Not just at the instruments. Keep your head on a swivel.