Pelican’s Perch #29:
They’re Messing with Part 61 – Again!

Not quite three years ago, the FAA implemented a massive rewrite of the FARs that govern certification of pilots and instructors. The result was a great deal of confusion, a bunch of band-aid fixes, and issuance of an interpretive FAQ that has now grown to three times the size of Part 61 itself! Well, at least the dust is now settling, right?


Pelican's PerchFrankly, I hated the massive rewrite ofPart 61 that went into effect on August 4, 1997. No one asked me, but I didn’t think itneeded an overhaul. A few minor tweaks to clear up a few poor areas would have done verynicely. It changed rules and requirements that had been in effect for decades, from beforethe FAA even existed.

The new Part 61 was half-again as large, didn’t correct most of the problems, and addeda whole slew of new ones. I don’t think it did a thing for flight safety, nor did itimprove the aviation world. It not only required corrections contained in half a dozenamendments since then, but also required a FAQ file that is now threetimes the size of Part 61 itself! It has also thrown everything badly out of whack withthe various Practical Test Standards (PTS) books and various FAA publications, many ofwhich will not “catch up” for years, if ever.

A word of caution, here. BE VERY CAREFUL reading that FAQ file. While it may state thethinking of John Lynch and his crew more clearly than the regs themselves, it has NO legalstanding whatsoever. The absolute language of the FAR itself is ALL that matters when thecrunch comes and the judge is looking down your throat. It really bugs me to see a hugefile that says, in effect, “Here’s what we really meant.” English is a wonderfullanguage, capable of great clarity, and Part 61 should have been written that way in thefirst place, then left alone.

It was quite amusing to watch the FAA’s own best people try and puzzle out and adjustto the new rules in September of that year, while they tried to teach them to a group ofwould-be examiners. For a few short weeks, perhaps they felt like most of us do all thetime!

Who is John Lynch? He is an FAA Inspector in Washington, D.C., whose name is widelymentioned when the subject of the Part 61 rewrite comes up. While he may not have done itall by himself, he probably had more to do with it than any other person. In fairness, hiswork was probably not improved by having to pass through the hands of many people on theway to approval, but his name is the only one I’ve got, so he takes the heat.

And yes, like most of you, I was remiss in not commenting on the rewrite of Part 61much earlier. Most of us do have lives, and things to do other than read the FederalRegister and comment on things that should never have been done in the first place. But onthis one, I blush to admit that I knew it was coming, I was somewhat familiar with theNPRM (Notice of Proposed Rulemaking), and I left it to others to comment. I have sincelearned that these proposals actually draw far less comment from the users than I thought,and that only a few letters CAN make a big difference.

You’ve heard the expression, “Cheer up, things could be worse,” right? Withits corollary, “So I cheered up, and sure enough, they got worse”? Well folks,don’t cheer up yet, because they’re about to get worse. I have recently come intopossession of material that gives some insight into what these people are thinking ofdoing to us soon, probably by the end of the year. Every day, the FAA becomes more likethe IRS. The rules become more complicated, and it is now impossible for anyone, even withthe very best of intentions, to fly without being in violation of some rule, somewhere.

FAR Part 61 … Oops, see there, I’m in deep trouble already. Some people in the FAAinsist that “FAR” is not appropriate in this case, and that the only correctexpression is “14 CFR 61.” “FAR” apparently stands for “FederalAcquisition Regulations.” Run that by the pilots at the local FBO, and see whatreaction you get.

I shall save my editor the necessity of deleting my expletives, but I’m going to stickwith “FAR” and “FARs,” thanks very much, and you’ll notice that thematerial that follows does, too.

Please bear in mind that what follows is not even to the stage of an NPRM yet. Thelanguage may change a lot between now and then, and some of these may never see the lightof day. These are in draft form only, and sometimes the language is very poor. I debatedtrying to clean up the grammar and punctuation a bit, but I wanted to present it to youjust as it was presented to me in a class to renew my examiner’s privileges. I hope thevery pleasant and helpful instructors in that class do not take a lot of heat for lettingthis material loose. While there was no restriction, no confidentiality placed on thematerial, they had no idea I might “go public” with it in quite this fashion. Onthe other hand, one of the slides seemed to encourage sharing it with the world, so I’vedone so.

I have done my best to faithfully duplicate what I saw. The slides are simulated byenclosure in text boxes, and I have identified the material that accompanied it. Theinstructors did an excellent job of explaining the material, often going well beyond whatyou see here, but without taping them, I can’t duplicate that.

Throughout what follows, I have converted all the FAA-written text to italics.Where I have been unable to restrain myself from comment, my own comments will be clearlylabeled as [Author’s note: Whatever…], in blue and not in italics. The boldface,underline, all caps, grammar, punctuation and spelling is as faithfully reproduced as Ican do it while hand-typing it all.

[Instructor’s Notes]



[Instructor’s Notes]



Definition Changes, FAR Part 1

[Instructor’s Notes]

This change will further refine the legal definition of “pilot in command” (PIC) under 1.1 by taking into consideration the additional training and endorsement requirement for serving as a PIC.

The Provision: “Is endorsed to serve as plot in command in that aircraft, if an endorsement is required” will be added to the 1.1. “pilot in command” definition.

This language will prohibit a pilot from acting as a PIC unless the pilot holds the appropriate airplane category and class rating and has received the appropriate additional training and endorsement as required by 61.31 for complex airplane, high-performance airplane, tail-wheel airplane, pressurized aircraft, additional type-specific training, and/or glider launch training.

EXCEPTIONS: Pilot endorsed to solo an aircraft per 61.31(d)(3) [Author’s Note: Solo Flight] – {will be (d)(2) – and exceptions per 61.31(k)- includes students and pilots taking practical tests.

[Author’s Note: I have no objection to the principlehere, but the FARs already address this point, albeit in a somewhat incoherent fashion.If this change will clean up all that dreadful language and simplify the subject, fine.Otherwise, let’s not add yet another layer of dung on top of dung.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

“This change will further refine the legal definition of “pilot in command” (PIC) under 1.1 by requiring an instrument rating or privilege to agree wit the 61.3(e) instrument rating requirement.

Instrument privileges may be conferred by authorization in accordance with 61.13. Examples of such authorization may be the “authorization in lieu of a type rating” per 61.31(b) or the “special purpose authorization for operation of US registered aircraft leased by a non-citizen”.

[Author’s note: Again, why are we adding verbiage, here? Will it simplify, or clear upsomething that does need addressing?]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The definition of “authorized instructor” in 61.1(b)(2) as being a person authorized by the Administrator to provide ground training and flight training under a letter of operational authority (LOOA) for that specific make and model of aircraft, and that LOOA will be issued by the Administrator in accordance with 61.31(k) of this part.

This proposal will permit a regulatory means through proposed 61.31(k) for providing pilot training, certification, and operating privileges for aircraft such as the Air Tractor AT-802 or the North American F-86 Saber Jet and all the other kinds of aircraft that hold special airworthiness certificates but do not hold civilian type designations.

This will provide for the FAA to issue LOOAs to LOA holders so that they can provide ground and flight training to those persons seeking LOAs to operate surplus military aircraft (the ones that hold special airworthiness certificates and for which no civilian type designations exist.)

[Author’s Note: I’m really critical of the FAA’s handlingof the whole LOA/LOOA business. While it affects only a small segment of the aviationworld, it takes enormous FAA time and resources, and it’s a constant battle to get therequired paperwork on time. Most pilots have never even heard of the two acronyms.

Essentially, if an aircraft has never gone through anykind of CAA/FAA certification, then there is no type certificate listed for it, and it’s”Experimental.” In typical bureaucratic complexification, the FAA decided thatif there’s no type certificate, there cannot be a type rating. Why the two are”connected” at all is beyond me. For example, the Boeing B-29 has never had acivilian type certificate, and accordingly, there is no B-29 type rating. To cover thissituation, the FAA came up with “LOA” (Letter of Authorization). The proceduresand steps to acquire this document are identical to those for a type rating; just thepaperwork at the end is different.

But there are more bizarre results. I fly twoCurtiss-Wright C-46 “Commando” aircraft. One is “Experimental” (ChinaDoll), the other is “Standard” (Tinker Belle). My C-46 type rating covers themboth, because there is an official FAA Type Certificate for the C-46. As a CFI (II, ME)there is no further qualification or requirement for me to instruct in both, and to signpeople off for rating rides.

On the other hand, there are two C-121 aircraft parked atCamarillo, Calif. One is the EC-121 variant with various radars and electronics on board, oneis the “slick” C-121, once used for military transport. Both have cockpits andsystems that are identical to each other (except for the usual differences in radios),and both are identical to the Lockheed 1049G “Constellation.” The EC-121 isabout 20,000 pounds heavier due to all the electronics and the huge “tumor” of aradome on the belly, but at equal weights, the speeds and other performance numbers areremarkably close. The L-1049 type rating covers ALL the Connie variants, and there aremajor differences between those.

I hold an LOA for the EC-121, but I cannot fly the C-121with it. I’d have to go take a separate check ride for the type rating. The pilot on”The Camarillo Connie” cannot fly the EC-121, because he has no LOA.

I can instruct in the EC-121, but cannot sign off mytrainees, because an LOAA is required to do that. If I held the L-1049 type rating I couldinstruct in the the C-121 with no further showing of competence. In other words, my CFI is”good enough.”

So the above change is a puzzle to me, I see no need forit, it’s must more of that “stuff on stuff.”

What the FAA should do, in my opinion, is simply make atype rating designation for those aircraft that don’t have them, and thereafter treat themas any other large aircraft.]


[Instructor’s Notes]

1st Class medical certificates will only be valid for 30 days.

[Author’s Note: Just checking to be sure you’re awake.]

The FAA is proposing to extend the duration period for the 1st class medical certificates to 12 months for operations requiring an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate, if the person has not reached his or her 40th birthday on or before the date of examination.

“For the years 1990 through 1997, the FAA’;s pilot incapacitation data on those pilots under the age of 40 years who hold 1st or 2nd class medical certificates only amounted to 5 incapacitations during those 7 years. So, the risk for extending the 1st and 2nd class medical certificates for thos pilots who have not reached their 40th birthday is insignificant and basically non-existent.”

[Instructor’s Notes]

The FAA is also proposing to extend the duration period for the 2nd class medical certificates to 24 months for operation requiring a Commercial Pilot Certificate, if the person has not reached his or her 40th birthday on or before the examination.

The purpose of these proposals are to harmonize U.S. medical certification requirements with the medical certification requirements that are under consideration for being proposed in the Joint Aviation Regulations by the European aviation authorities.

[Author’s Note: I remain unconvinced that medicalcertificates accomplish any useful purpose whatsoever. I think they should be done awaywith, and that those pilots serving in the public sector should have to meetcompany-established requirements. Most airlines do have their own medical departments, andwith many, the requirements are far higher than the FAA’s. Anyone not involved in publictransport should be able to self-certify. That said, I certainly approve of extending theduration of such paperwork, it’s a good step in the right direction.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The FAA is proposing to revise 61.23(a)(3)(v) to permit DPEs to only be required to hold a 3rd class medical certificate. The purpose of this proposal is to make examiners medical certificate requirements conform to the requirements contained in FAA Order 8700.1.

[Author’s note: Gee whiz, if the rules for examiners arein the 8700.1, then why do we need to publish them in the FARs for the general pilotpopulation? What am I missing here?]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The FAA proposes to revise 61.19(b), so that the duration period for the student pilot certificate coincides with the duration period of the medical portion of the student pilot certificate duration provisions of 61.23(c)(3).

The FAA discovered that those person under the age of 40 years were having the student pilot portion of their certificate expire, but the medical portion of that certificate was still current. Occasionally, flights were conducted without a valid student pilot certificate.

[Author’s note: With reference to my comments above aboutmedical certificates in general, this seems to be an excellent cleanup.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The FAA is proposing to clarify throughout the rule in Part 61 when a person must holda “valid” airman certificate, rating and authorization and/or when a person musthold a “current” airman certificate, rating, and authorization.

A “valid” airman certificate, rating, and authorization would mean it has not been surrendered, suspended, revoked, or expired.

[Author’s note: While this does add verbiage to analready overweight chapter, I think it’s a good move, and a needed common-senseclarification.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

A “current” airman certificate, rating and authorization would mean the pilothas met the appropriate recency of experience requirements of Part 61 for the flight beingconducted and the pilot’s medical certificate has not expired, if a medical certificate isrequired.

The requirement to be current and valid applies to all pilot certificates, flight and ground instructor certificates, instrument rating and the foreign pilot licenses upon which a restricted certificate is based.

[Author’s note: Same comment.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

This proposal will provide the authorization to operate surplus military aircraft (the ones that hold special airworthiness certificates and for which no civilian type designations exist).

Besides former military jet airplanes, there are even some civilian aircraft that also do not have civilian type designations. In the past, the FAA permitted pilots to operate these kinds by policy (as per FAA Order 8700.1, Volume 2, Chapter 32).

This proposal will also permit a regulatory means through proposed 61.31(k) for providing pilot training, certification, and operating privileges for aircraft such as the Air Tractor AT-802 or the North American F-86 Saber Jet (sic) and all the other kinds of aircraft that hold special airworthiness certificates but do not hold civilian type designations. This will require pilots to hold an LOA to operate these kinds of of aircraft and an LOOA to instruct is such aircraft.

[Author’s Note: This is asinine. Simply establish typeratings as needed, add them to the list, and no further regulatory action is needed. Theexcuses for not doing this are bureaucratic bovine waste.]

Logging Pilot Experience

[Instructor’s Notes]

The purpose for this proposal is to correct some mistakes and to also clarify the logging of pilot in command time in accordance with 61.51(e). one, at first glance it would appear that by not including the words “airline transport pilot” in 61.51(e)(1) prohibits airline transport pilots from having the same PIC logging privileges that afforded to the Recreational Pilots, Private Pilots, and Commercial Pilots under 61.51(e)(1). This is not the case, and so the wods “airline transport pilot” have been included in proposed 61.51(e)(1).

[Author’s Note: EXCELLENT change, long overdue. Thisregulation has been unclear on this point for as long as I can remember.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The purpose for this proposal is to clarify who may log pilot in command time under 61.61(e) in an aircraft that requires additional training and an endorsement.

The will prohibit the logging of PIC time unless the pilot or instructor is qualified in complex airplanes [61.31(e)], high performance airplanes [61.31(f)], pressurized aircraft [61.31(g)], with additional aircraft type specific training [61.31(h)], or tailwheel airplanes [61.31(i)], as appropriate.

[Author’s Note: This has long been a silly loophole. Itseems silly to me to draw a line between “rated” and “endorsed.”

However, this, and other changes like it, raises some very serious issues that arelikely to make this change far more complicated than it appears here. What of people whohave been building time, and now have significant time in airplanes for which they are not”rated?” Does this change retroactively render all that time invalid? This sortof thing makes it a nightmare for examiners when reviewing logbooks that require certaintypes of logged time.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

This proposal states that to log PIC time when the flight is being conductedunder instrument flight rules (IFR) or in weather conditions less than the minimumsprescribed for flights under visual flight rules (VFR) the person must hold aninstrument rating or instrument privileges appropriate to the category, class, andtype of aircraft, if a class rating or type rating is required.

[Author’s note: Same comment as above. I guess I reallydon’t see the real need for rule changes like this. Yes, they may clean up some loopholes,but is overall flight safety REALLY helped? I think not.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Time performed in a flight simulator or flight training device may be logged as “training received” and “instrument time,” but only if an authorized instructor is present to observe the time and that instructor must sign the person’s logbook to verify the time and the content of the session.

[Author’s note: I have no beef with this change.]

Time in a flight simulator or flight training device may be substituted for “instrument flight time” aeronautical experience, as in the case of 61.159(a)(3)(i), (ii), or (iii), but it is not “instrument flight time” and may not be logged as “instrument flight time.”

[Author’s note: I am sorry, I cannot even begin tocomment on that one, I don’t see what the meaning or purpose is. I have proofed itcarefully, and that’s what the original FAA document says. I can only assume there is atypo, or perhaps a few words where left out.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Logging Time. Time logged to meet requirements of FAR Part 61 for a certificate orrating or to meet the recency of experience requirements can only be acquired in avehicle that is type certificated as an aircraft in a category listed in FAR 61.5(b)(1)or as an experimental aircraft, or otherwise holds an airworthiness certificate.

[Author’s note: This FAR refers to the”Category” ratings, such as Airplane, Rotorcraft, glider, Lighter-than-air, andPowered-lift. What am I missing here? What other types of “vehicles” are outthere, in which folks are feloniously logging precious flight time? Only thing I can thinkof is the Space Shuttle, and as far as I’m concerned, anyone who flies that sucker oughtto get to log it!]

The prohibits logging flight time in former military aircraft that do not hold acivilian aircraft type designation as an aircraft and are not identified as an aircraftcategory under 61.5(b)(1) and do not hold any kind of airworthiness certificate. Legallythere is no category and class of aircraft for the flight time to be logged under.

[Author’s note: What the heck are they talking about,here? There must be something (or some potential something), but is it worth having an FARfor it? Is there one pilot somewhere who is logging thousands of hours of PIC time in somesort of machine, and the FAA is worried he’ll claim that time for a rating of some sort?Wait, I’ve got it! This covers the alien spacecraft that has been hidden in “Area51” for 50 years! Remember, you heard it here first!]

Furthermore, Public Law 103-411 states, in essence, that flight training or currencytraining flights are NOT considered to be “public aircraft operations.” “Publicaircraft operations” are those involved in the following 4 kinds of operations:

  1. Flights in response to fire fighting;
  2. Flights in response to search and rescue;
  3. Flights in response to law enforcement activities; or
  4. Flight in support of aeronautical research or biological or geological resource management.

Flights that are not those identified as “public aircraft operations” wouldthen be considered as “civil aircraft operations.” The FAA has determined thisis a safety critical problem to allow the operation of former military aircraft outsidethose missions specifically identified and authorized as “public aircraftoperations” because these former military aircraft do not adhere to any kind ofcivilian airworthiness standards and they are on longer under the operational andmaintenance control of the U.S. military (or National Guard). Surplus military aircraftare not military aircraft and are not considered under the direct operational control ofthe military. Surplus military aircraft are not considered military aircraft.

[Author’s note: More gobbledegook. Mercifully, it’s notlikely to hurt most of us, but what do you want to bet that questions on this reallyobscure subject will show up on the FAA knowledge tests?]


[Instructor’s Notes]

The regulation requires that of the 50 hours cross-country only that 10 hours must bein airplanes for an instrument rating-airplane.

The FAA is proposing to revise 61.65(d)(1) to require that at least 10 hoursof the cross country time to be in the category and class of aircraft appropriate tothe rating sought, so that it conforms to ICAO requirements for the instrumentrating.

[Author’s note: On the face of it, this doesn’t seem soonerous, and is just another minor loophole closed. But I’ve gotta tell ya, I am gettingthoroughly sick and tired of hearing this crap about bringing U. S. aviation into”conformity” with the ICAO (or European) standards. They don’t HAVE any aviationto speak of, they’ve always done everything possible to kill off anything to do withairplanes, except they do seem to realize that airline operations may be necessary. If itwere up to ICAO and Europe, we’d still be crossing the USA in Conestoga Wagons. For theall the potshots I take at the FAA, they are SO VERY MUCH better than anyone else.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Revision of the solo cross-country mileage requirements of 61.109 is proposedfor consistency with the mileage requirements contained in the definition of the term”cross country” in 61.1. The FAA defines the distance of a cross country, inpertinent part, as “… more than 50 nautical miles…” In61.109(a)(5)(ii), (b)(5)(ii), and (e)(5)(ii), it erroneously states, in pertinent part,”… of at least 50 nautical miles…” The minor editorial change wouldmake the rules read “… more than 50 nautical miles…”

[Author’s note: I am unsure how the very minor changementioned is going to stop the perceived “abuse” of the distance requirements,and there is nothing to show the proposed changes that will accomplish that purpose. Allthis could be done so simply with something like “The cross-country flight to satisfythis requirement must have at least one leg of more than 50 nautical miles.” I’m not tooworried about trainees “cheating,” because usually, a return flight is just asmysterious as the outbound was. Thinks look different, the lighting has changed, and theexperience is valid.]

(COMMENT: This will put an end to the excuse for requesting approval of flights to anairport 40 miles north, then to an airport 40 miles south and then finally back tooriginal point of departure to meet the private pilot long cross-country requirement.)

[Author’s note: I don’t seen what this means, perhapssomeone can explain it?]

The FAA is also proposing to make a minor revision in the Private Pilot-Helicopterrating so that it conforms to ICAO requirements. The helicopter cross-country totaldistance will be changed to “at least 100 NM” rather than 75 NM.

[Instructor’s Notes]

The FAA proposes to revise 61.129 to be less specific on whether the requiredcross country flight at the Commercial Pilot Certificate level may be performed under VFRor IFR. Currently, 61.129 reads as “…day VFR conditions …” and”… night VFR conditions…” This will revise the cross country trainingrequirements of 61.129 for the daytime and nighttime cross country training flight tomerely read “…in day conditions…” and “in nightconditions…” respectively.

[Author’s note: Sounds like a decent change.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Proposal to revise the solo aeronautical experience requirements of 61.129(a)(4),(c)(4), (d)(4), and (e)(4) for standardization purposes, so these rules read identical to61.129(b)(4).

The Commercial Pilot applicant’s aeronautical experience requirements for a multiengineairplane rating [e.g., per 61.129(b)(4)] are permitted to be performed solo or with anauthorized instructor on board. The verbiage was written differently for the multiengineairplanes than the other aircraft because comments received indicated that the insurancecompanies prohibit persons from operating multiengine airplanes who do not already hold amultiengine airplanes who do not already hold a multiengine airplane category and classrating on their pilot certificate. Some of the other categories and classes of aircraftalso have the same insurance company restrictions.

[Author’s note: This seems to solve a problem, so I’m forit.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

The Regulation requires all the helicopter and gyroplane instrument training beaccomplished in aircraft thus eliminating use of sim/FTD/PCATD.

The FAA is proposing to revise 61.129(c)(3)(i) and (d)(3)(i) to permit some ofthe instrument training that is required at the Commercial Pilot Certificate level for thehelicopter rating [i.e., 61.129(c)(3)(i)] and gyroplane rating [i.e., 61.129(d)(3)(i)]to be performed in an aircraft, flight simulator, flight training device, or in a PCATD,as is the case for the single engine airplane, multiengine airplane, and powered-liftratings.

[Author’s note: Man alive, I’ll bet there are justbazillions of pilots out there getting away with something on this one! Do we REALLY needa regulation, one that may appear on the knowledge tests?]

[Instructor’s Notes]

An instructor recommendation will be required if a class rating is being added.

Proposal is to delete the phrase “… or a class rating with an associatedtype rating …” from 61.39(c)(2). In effect, the reference to “classrating” in paragraph (C)(2) excuses the applicant from needing an instructorrecommendation to take a practical test that adds a class rating while acquiring a typerating. This was a mistake that was not corrected in the rewrite of Part 61 that occurredon August 4, 1997 (62FR 16220: April 4, 1997).

The present 61.39(c)(2) conflicts with 61.39(a)(6) and 61.63(c) and thedirectives contained in FAA Order 8700.1.

[Instructor’s Notes]

The phrase “If Required, an endorsement to serve as pilot in command in thataircraft” is being proposed to be incorporated into a new subparagraph (b)(3)of 61.195. The purpose for this proposal is to require a person who performs flightinstructor duties to also be qualified in aircraft that they provide flight training. Thetraining and endorsements of 61.31 apply.

[Author’s note: Probably a loophole that should have beenclosed.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Instrument training, by definition in 61.1(b)(10), must be received from anauthorized instructor. However, 61.195(c) referred to training for the instrument ratinga type rating not limited to VFR and inadvertently omitted the training required in61.129 for the commercial rating and any instrument training used to meet ATPexperience.

The FAA is proposing to revise 61.195(c) by establishing that a flightinstructor who provides instrument training required at the Commercial Pilot and AirlineTransport Pilot certification levels must hold an instrument rating on that flightinstructor’s pilot and flight instructor’s certificate that is appropriate to the categoryand class of aircraft in which instrument training is being provided.

Training for private pilot certificates does not require instrument training, butinstead, “training in control and maneuvering solely by reference toinstruments.”

[Author’s note: Forty miles of verbiage to solve a verysimple problem. This area could be simplified.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Proposal to revise 61.19(d), 61.197(a), and 61.199 to issue flight instructorcertificate without an expiration date.

The FAA would still require that flight instructors renew their flight instructor”privileges” every 24 calendar months in order to exercise the”privileges” of their flight instructor certificate, but it would be donewithout requiring the re-issuance of the flight instructor certificate. However, the FAAstill wants to maintain the procedure for flight instructor renewal applicants to berequired to submit a completed FAA Form 8710-1, “Airman Certificate and/or RatingApplication” to the FAA’s Airman Certification Branch, AFS-760 in Oklahoma City, OK,because the FAA believes this procedure is important for maintaining order on flightinstructor renewals and also for being able to retain statistical data on flightinstructors.

The proposal will contain the language “… or on another suitable documentthat is acceptable to the Administrator…” in proposed 61.197(a)(2) becausethe FAA wants the rule to provide flight instructor renewal applicants significant leewayto show compliance with 61.197.

Additionally, this same language “…or on another suitable document that isacceptable to the Administrator …” is contained in proposed 61.199(a)(2) forflight instructor reinstatement applicants for the same reasons.

Those instructors who hold flight instructor certificates with expiration dates ontheir certificate will be permitted to continue to hold those certificate (sic)indefinitely and will just have to comply with the renewal procedures of 61.197 orreinstatement procedures of 61.199, as appropriate, in order to retain or reinstatetheir flight instructor “privileges.”

Regardless of what method is used to show compliance with 61.197 (i.e., logbookentry, completion certification, or a stamp inserted in the applicant’s logbook, etc.),the FAA expects the flight instructor renewal/reinstatement applicant’s record to show thecompletion date and expiration date of the renewal/reinstatement.

[Author’s note: VERY good change, I think. It has alwaysbeen silly to do all the paperwork for CFI renewal. This will kill fewer trees, and reducethe paperwork burden on everyone. Of course, it leaves the people in the FAA more time tocreate mischief.]

[Instructor’s Notes]

Proposal to revise 61.215(b) to provide that only a ground instructor with aninstrument rating may give ground training for the issuance of an instrument rating andinstrument proficiency check and a recommendation for the knowledge test required for aninstrument rating.

The purpose of this proposal is to correct a mistake in 61.215(b) that permitspersons who only hold an Advanced Ground Instructor Certificate to provide instrumenttraining. Advanced Ground Instructors are not tested on instrument subjects and shouldnever have been allowed this privilege. The mistake occurred due to a misunderstanding ofthe FAA’s policy on this issue during the drafting of this rule.

[Instructor’s Notes]

61.217 Recent experience requirements

The holder of a ground instructor certificate may not perform the duties of a ground instructor unless with the preceding 12 months the person can show:

  1. Employment or activity as a ground instructor for giving ground training in a course of training for an airman certificate or rating of this part;
  2. Employment or activity as a flight instructor for giving ground or flight training in a course of training for an airman certificate or rating of this part;
  3. Satisfactory completion of an approved flight instructor refresher course and has received a graduation certificate for attending that course; or
  4. An endorsement from an authorized instructor certifying that the person has demonstrated satisfactory knowledge in the subject areas prescribed in 61.213(a)(3) and (a)(4), as applicable.


[Instructor’s notes]

[Author’s Note: All upper case in the original FAAdocument. I think they must think this important!]





[Instructor’s Notes]

Please check the Frequently Asked Questions first, if you can. Your question may havealready been asked and answered. If not; –

Then ask your POI at your FSDO. Even if a clear answer is still not available the FSDOis “in the loop”.

An e-mail message to Pinkston &/or Lynch is preferable unless your need it timecritical. The e-mail process often results in a beneficial addition to the FrequentlyAsked Questions.

Please include a phone number at which you can be reached. Sometimes the answer can beconveyed most easily by phone and occasionally a clarification of the question is needed.

Hi, it’s me again!

In conclusion, I think we ought to roll the FARs back to what they were in 1968 (orearlier). I see no evidence that flight is any safer, or the world is any better with themassive changes in the last 40 years. Do away entirely with Part 121, 135, 125.

Be careful up there!