American Pilots Ask Boeing For Sim Time


American Airlines pilots have asked a second time for access to Boeing’s 737 MAX simulators after their first request, made through the airline, was rejected by Boeing. Dan Carey, the outgoing president of the Allied Pilots Association, appealed directly to Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg earlier this week, calling the training an important aspect of the type’s return to service. “Our participation in every aspect of returning the 737 Max to service and restoring public trust in the airplane is absolutely critical,” Carey said. Bloomberg is reporting that Boeing will give incoming APA President Eric Ferguson, who defeated Carey in an election in May, sim time but there was no mention of access for rank and file pilots who will be operating the aircraft in scheduled service.

Boeing has reportedly offered access to its simulators to only a few people outside the company since the MAX was grounded and none of the U.S. carriers who own the planes have simulators since the original transition training from the previous generation NG models didn’t require sim time. So, there are only a handful of true MAX simulators, which include the same screen displays and incorporate the MAX-only Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), worldwide. Air Canada is the only North American airline with one. High-profile aviators, like Miracle on the Hudson pilot Chesley (Sully) Sullenberger, have called for sim training for all pilots who will fly the MAX as has Canada’s Transport Minister Marc Garneau but the lack of simulators would create major delays in the return to service of the type.

Russ Niles
Russ Niles is Editor-in-Chief of AVweb. He has been a pilot for 30 years and joined AVweb 22 years ago. He and his wife Marni live in southern British Columbia where they also operate a small winery.

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  1. Why do pilots feel they need MAX-specific sim time? Add runaway stabilizer and manual trim procedures–including manually trimming from a severely out-of-trim condition (which you should never see in the first place, but I digress)–and you’ll have covered the skills required to avoid both the Lion Air and the Ethiopian Air accidents. All the lights, buzzers, clackers, and annunciators are superfluous in a runaway stabilizer scenario. A crew doesn’t have time to troubleshoot the cause of runaway stabilizer, they need to stop it immediately. They can troubleshoot the cause when they get the plane safely on the ground.